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puc reducks

EVER GET HOMESICK? FOR WHERE?

Just chilling today and spoke with a friend with a heavy, heavy NJ accent (I lapse right into it along w/her! LOL).

It's not yet officially autumn, but the light has changed.  Makes me homesick.

Was surprised to discover that I think of New England as "home" when I've spent more time in the Southwest.  Maybe it's melancholy, or old age, or missing out on the adoption of a wee little dog I planned to name "Clementine."

But...  I find myself longing for the Berkshires, the entire state of Connecticut, except for Bridgeport, reservoirs surrounded by acres of pine, canoes, L.L. Bean gear, plaid flannel shirts, apple orchards, my '62 VW Beetle, Yale, Cambridge, The Charles, Wadsworth Atheneum, Little Italy in Hartford, Tony's Cash & Carry in my home town... and mostly, our parades in Southington:  fife and drums that now bring tears to my eyes but as a child would rivet me to attention with great pride in my New England roots.

All just the tip of the iceberg:  the architecture, mortarless stone walls, snake cedar fences, babbling brooks (fresh and clear), grist mills, warm woollen mittens and whiskers on kittens (no, not that last one), wild strawberries and blackberries, birch trees...

Could some one please pass the freshly pressed cider and the lobster rolls?  

When YOU get homesick, where do you miss?
coebul

Northern Virginia in the fall.  Crisp clear days kool nights.  

We use to go to the Waterford fair where you could get candied apples and watch a Revolution battle re-enactment.

Camping on the C&O canal or hiking in the Shenandoahs.

Love raw apple cider but the best you can find is here...

Eastern shore steamed Blue crab and cold cold beer...
Phred

Singapore ... but this isn't the proper venue to explain why ...  Wink
coebul

Oh Phred paaaalease splain why.
jasmine

I have lived in several different states, but I would be homesick if I ever left St Augustine, I just love this place.
puc reducks

Yeah, Phred, Singapore feels like a great story comin' on!
auntmartymoo

I'm homesick for my friends in St. Augustine and DC.  It's the people that I miss, more than the places.
bieramar

My tinges of homesickness also are more often associated with people from my past, not places.

But there are a few of my many "homes" also - memories with powerful longings.

The constantly changing but ever present sound of the surf which accompanied my dreams in Biera Mar - on Anastasia Island, north of Butler Beach (occasionally replicated on my mountain here when the wind is just right, and the muted sounds of the midnight truckers on I-40 waft up the 4 miles of crooked canyon).

Every afternoon watching storm clouds emerge, build and convulse from the western horizon of the Atlantic Ocean as they slowly covered the sky, moving closer and closer to the 4th level observation deck above my apartment in Andalusia, Spain.  

The panorama and vistas of ancient terraces and aqueducts viewed from the "top of the world" in the Peruvian Andes - and viewing the even older moldings of civilizations and the Cedars of Lebanon on the twisted paths to the mysterious Baalbek.

And viewing the billions of twinkling and falling stars of the celestial heavens in deafening silence (ear plugs and ear muffs), with the ship darkened and the nearest sources of light miles below the 360° horizon in the basilica of the North Atlantic.
scrutney

virginia in the fall.
and michigan in the summer.(i spent the summer of 1984 floating on an innertube in lake huron, beer clutched firmly in hand...got the best tan of my life and gained 15 pounds)
coebul

Summer in Michigan at Lake Huron is a great time.

I have to add fresh Lake Huron yellow perch caught in the morning eaten for lunch.  

But moving back to the east I loved steamed Chesapeake Blue crabs on a  Sunday afternoon poured on to a new paper covered table with drawn sweet butter and ice cold beer.

Another flavor of the past would be a late night Steak and Cheese Sub from Mario's after an evening watching the submarine races at Haines point.
puc reducks

How in heck do you watch a SUBmarine race???

Do they have pennants??  Shocked
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
How in heck do you watch a SUBmarine race???

Do they have pennants??  Shocked
Puc!!! Do you want to think about that for a min or two???  
































Or do you really want me to esplain?
puc reducks

Ricky,
Please esplain how you can watch a SUBmarine race???

You did NOT qualify that they had surfaced for said race, I wish to point out.

Lucy
coebul

Puck!  No pennant the entire race is conducted under water.  The result are not announce except in certain cases in oh about 9 months or so.  

And you usually need to recharge your batteries later!  

At least I usually did!
scrutney

puc reducks wrote:
How in heck do you watch a SUBmarine race???

Do they have pennants??  Shocked


no but if the participants haven't protected themselves they'll do penance.
20 or so years of it.~little ricky.
coebul

In a nut shell?  Yup!
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Puck!  No pennant the entire race is conducted under water.  The result are not announce except in certain cases in oh about 9 months or so.  

And you usually need to recharge your batteries later!  

At least I usually did!


HUH??!

Wait a minnit.  Are you joking me?

I mean, results not announced???  Race underwater???  Who SEES it???  Is there a pygmy submarine that covers these races???

Nine months.

Is this some sex thing???

Jeez, I still don't get it.

Are the batteries for the dildoes???

Whatcha talkin' 'bout, Willis???

~~~~
Thanks, Scrutney.  But I still don't get the original joke.

Haines Point.  I guess ya had to be there.
scrutney

puc wrote:
Clearer pix from Scrutney.  But I still don't get the original joke.

Haines Point.  I guess ya had to be there.


just don't ask coe about the bunny man.
jasmine

To put it politely,

"Submarine Races - Parking next to a water shore to wait for the submarine races to which of course was only an excuse to park and make out. For your information there were no such thing as a submarine race. "  From slang of the '60's.  

If you were parked and a cop knocked on your window and asked what you were doing, the stock answer would be watching the submarine races.
coebul

Haines point is on the Potomac river in Northern Virgin ia.   Jazz got the rest.  She must have been to those races a time or two???  

The point was Mario's was on the way home.   Steak and cheese with all the fixins and a soda.
puc reducks

Mario's... something I can relate to!  LOL!

(I was sheltered. The nuns told my father "Clara has the calling" to be a nun, and there were stricter rules for me from age 7, thus my  life of sneaky crime. Things didn't change much with puberty.)

But back to Haines Point, Mario's, etc....

Maybe the genesis of "submarine race" occurred when cops found the car windows all fogged up--water condensation.  They would have joked w/each other, saying, "Some heavy submarine races on Haines Point last night."

Of course, it could be equally as possible that some pot head said, "We're watchin' the submarine races, man."

~~~
Fixin's on the cheese steak sandwich?  Grilled onions?  Go-withs?  Fries or onion rings?
bieramar

Waiting for the "submarine race" is a fairly recent addition to urban slang - early '60s on the right coast, then spreading across the land, where no submarine had dared to go before.

Because of the lack of experience and knowledge of young people who weren't raised along the shores of oceans, many sexual connotations have been applied to the term through the years.
scrutney

bier wrote:
many sexual connotations have been applied to the term through the years.


bingo.
maybe i've got a dirty mind ala the last scene in north by northwest (the train going through the tunnel) but the first time i heard the submarine races thing...
i thought of a train going through a tunnel.
coebul

bieramar wrote:
Waiting for the "submarine race" is a fairly recent addition to urban slang - early '60s on the right coast, then spreading across the land, where no submarine had dared to go before.

Because of the lack of experience and knowledge of young people who weren't raised along the shores of oceans, many sexual connotations have been applied to the term through the years.
Maybe in your neck of the woods but my pop said he used it as far back as his dating era circa 1930s.  He spent summers from an early age on Lake Huron.   I remember hearing about his first kiss from an old fling 35 years later.
puc reducks

Knee jerk reaction
 
1. an immediate unthinking emotional reaction produced by an event or statement to which the reacting person is highly sensitive; - in persons with strong feelings on a topic, it may be very predictable.


Well!  I never!!!

I hope you don't think the above describes ME, Coebul.

I am NOT reactionary, but have put many long hours/days/weeks/months/sometimes years behind my strong pronouncements.

The very idea!  Hmmmpf.

Next you will be saying is I am as predictable as, as... Bieramar!  Cool
puc reducks

I don't know about that coastal waters thing.  I grew up not far from New London, CT.

From reading the posts here, I think it's simply gender-specifie usage.

Y'all think yours is the size of a submarine! Very Happy
coebul

Puc!  Calm down.  I think you are over reacting just a bit.  I'll I did was change my signature.  Nothing was aimed at any one.  

bieramar accuses me of being knee jerk all the time.  I thought it time to post a definition.  

Wink
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
I don't know about that coastal waters thing.  I grew up not far from New London, CT.

From reading the posts here, I think it's simply gender-specifie usage.

Y'all think yours is the size of a submarine! Very Happy
Not me!  I know better.  It isn't the height of the wave but the motion of the ocean!
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Puc!  Calm down.  I think you are over reacting just a bit.  I'll I did was change my signature.  Nothing was aimed at any one.  

bieramar accuses me of being knee jerk all the time.  I thought it time to post a definition.  

Wink


No, not eve "a bit."

I was RESPONDING.  Thoughtfully.  Coherently.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
I don't know about that coastal waters thing.  I grew up not far from New London, CT.

From reading the posts here, I think it's simply gender-specifie usage.

Y'all think yours is the size of a submarine! Very Happy
Not me!  I know better.  It isn't the height of the wave but the motion of the ocean!


You've never watched "Sex and the City," have you?  Shocked
bieramar

coebul wrote:
bieramar wrote:
Waiting for the "submarine race" is a fairly recent addition to urban slang - early '60s on the right coast, then spreading across the land, where no submarine had dared to go before.


Maybe in your neck of the woods but my pop said he used it as far back as his dating era circa 1930s.  He spent summers from an early age on Lake Huron.   I remember hearing about his first kiss from an old fling 35 years later.


Yup, further research shows early references to making out while watching the submarine races along the Lake Huron beaches (U.S. and Canada), and specifically Belle Isle, MI. Highschool alumni blogs are great places to track down such memories, and is where I found the Huron/Belle Isle stuff.

Then Wolfman Jack picked up the phrase for intros on his radio show, including snippets in the movie American Graffiti, and in the first TV episode of Happy Days -- and it spread nationwide.
puc reducks

Bieramar wrote:
"Then Wolfman Jack picked up the phrase for intros on his radio show, including snippets in the movie American Graffiti, and in the first TV episode of Happy Days -- and it spread nationwide."

Now, that's a dandy piece of history! Radio, films, and television!
puc reducks

p.s.
I still don't get it.   Embarassed   Could someone PM me, please???  Thanks!
jasmine

puc reducks wrote:
p.s.
I still don't get it.   Embarassed   Could someone PM me, please???  Thanks!


I actually have no idea where the phrase came from, but Bier was right, Wolfman Jack did coin the phrase.  He would say "go get nekid and watch the submarine races."  At school if you asked a friend what they did last night, and he/she said "I was watching the submarine races" it would mean the were parked somewhere making out.  Not sure if it ever meant sex, at least it didn't to me, it just mean lots of making out.  That's the best I can do.
puc reducks

jasmine wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
p.s.
I still don't get it.   Embarassed   Could someone PM me, please???  Thanks!


I actually have no idea where the phrase came from, but Bier was right, Wolfman Jack did coin the phrase.  He would say "go get nekid and watch the submarine races."  At school if you asked a friend what they did last night, and he/she said "I was watching the submarine races" it would mean the were parked somewhere making out.  Not sure if it ever meant sex, at least it didn't to me, it just mean lots of making out.  That's the best I can do.


Thank you, Jas!!!  Very Happy

(But that's IT???  Shocked )
bieramar

"Watching submarine races" was not in my vocabulery in the '40s and early '50s, but based upon my research today it was comparable to "we were snipe hunting" or "we were watching corn grow" or all the other euphemisms for sneaking off and "making out" -- with "making out" meaning anything from cuddling to kissing to fondling to oral sex to sexual intercourse (and many other variations of 'whatever').  

The terms differed from region to region and time period to time period (until the advent of mass communications).

They were all - except in the most strict families - acceptable phrases to explain the flirting and courting and sexual games among adolescents and single adults, without being specific about what was - and wasn't - actually taking place.
coebul

puc reducks wrote:


Well!  I never!!!

Bet you did!
puc reducks

Snipe hunting!

Why didn't y'all just say so?  Sheesh.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
puc reducks wrote:


Well!  I never!!!

Bet you did!



LMAO!
bieramar

Coebul's reference to "submarine races" being in the jargon in the early 1930s led me to research connections between submarines and the Great Lakes.  I found a great one!

After WWI the victors divided the spoils of war, and the U.S. grabbed six German U-boats (submarines), with the plan to use them as advertising devices to sell Victory Bonds in order to pay off the debts incurred to fight WWI.*

U-111, U-117, U-140, UB-88, UB-148, and UC-97 were tended across the Atlantic via the Azores and Bermuda to New York in 1919 - the "Ex-German Submarine Expedition Force."  The U.S. was divided into six Port and Waterway Districts and UC-97 (built as a mine-layer by Blohm and Voss in Hamburg) was assigned the Great Lakes District.  All the subs began visiting ports across the U.S. in bond-selling drives - submerging and emerging as part of the show.

UC-97 first gained headlines when her skipper, LtCdr Charles A. Lockwood Jr. (in WWII, then-Admiral Lockwood, Commander, Submarines, Pacific) refused to fly the British Union Jack as was customary at the Canadian locks and ports of call along the St. Lawrence Canal System, which the Canadians controlled.  This publicity created anticipation on the U.S. ports of call along Lake Ontario, Lake Erie, Lake Huron (the previously referenced Belle Isle MI connection) and Lake Michigan - UC-97 never made it into Lake Superior because of engine trouble.

UC-97 limped back to Great Lakes Naval Station on Lake Michigan and was repaired.  Her last cruise was on June 7, 1921 when she sailed out an Lake Michigan and was sunk by the U.S.S. Wilmette (f/k/a Eastland) in a gunfire training exercise - she rests on the bottom 300' below the surface (Clive Cussler, where are you?).

--
Source: Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, Volume VII, pp 384, 385
More details and photos: http://www.eastlandmemorial.org/uc97.shtml
===

I don't have a clue whether there's a connection with "watching submarine races" (obviously as impossible as catching a snipe) as an excuse for parking and canoodling and the six German U-Boats who toured the U.S. in the early 20s - but its a great story for Naval History buffs.  

*The U.S. short participation in WWI cost taxpayers $52 billion - $400 per each man, woman and child - big bucks in those days.
$39 billion were expended for warfighting; $16 billion were profits taken by the businesses and corporations.

Liberty Bonds were sold to the public during the war, and Victory Bonds after, in order to pay back the loans obtained from banks.

---
Source: "War is a Racket" by Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC (awardee of two (2) Medals of Honor).
puc reducks

Helluva story!  And WW I, to boot!

Kinda makes New England snipe look lame in comparison.

But there's nothing better than "snipe hunting" with a burlap sack in the apple orchards...
jasmine

puc reducks wrote:
Helluva story!  And WW I, to boot!

Kinda makes New England snipe look lame in comparison.

But there's nothing better than "snipe hunting" with a burlap sack in the apple orchards...


You splain Lucy  Razz
scrutney

bier wrote:
After WWI the victors divided the spoils of war, and the U.S. grabbed six German U-boats (submarines), with the plan to use them as advertising devices to sell Victory Bonds in order to pay off the debts incurred to fight WWI.*


jesus...obama missed the boat on that one...imagine a traveling road show with osama bin laden in a dunk tank...at $500 bucks a throw.
coebul

Put him on a board and charge for pictures next to him...
puc reducks

Put him on a board and charge to throw knives at him...
auntmartymoo

How bout Pay Per View?

And make it interactive...with a touch screen.


For "Throw him to the lions"  Press here.

For "Firing Squad" Press here.

For "Puc throwing knives"  Press here.
puc reducks

auntmartymoo wrote:
How bout Pay Per View?

And make it interactive...with a touch screen.


For "Throw him to the lions"  Press here.

For "Firing Squad" Press here.

For "Puc throwing knives"  Press here.


You know I'd spend all my retirement savings on Pay Per View, doncha???  Cool
coebul

The truth be told.  I think they handled 0BL exactly they way they should have.  He was under death warrant.  He is dead.  They wrapped him in a tarp and tossed him over the side in a deep deep deep part of the Gulf.  Works for me.  

Probably 0bama's greatest success.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
The truth be told.  I think they handled 0BL exactly they way they should have.  He was under death warrant.  He is dead.  They wrapped him in a tarp and tossed him over the side in a deep deep deep part of the Gulf.  Works for me.  

Probably 0bama's greatest success.


Now that some time has passed, I agree.

(Twice in two days, I agree w/Coebul.  Is this the start of a trend???  Stay tuned.   Laughing )
jasmine

coebul wrote:
The truth be told.  I think they handled 0BL exactly they way they should have.  He was under death warrant.  He is dead.  They wrapped him in a tarp and tossed him over the side in a deep deep deep part of the Gulf.  Works for me.  

Probably 0bama's greatest success.


Agree, but it was the Seals' success.
coebul

Ultimately AM your are right.  But 0bama ordered the hit.  And just as the buck stops here so does the credit.  I'll give him that much.
Phred

WOW ... I get off the puter for a couple of days and y'all take this thread way out yonder and back.

Interesting stuff.
coebul

Ya know what that means don't ya?  Visit more often and post.

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