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auntmartymoo

Food, Glorious Food

Let's hear it.  Whatcha eating right now?
puc reducks

Nuthin' yet.  Just wanted to say what a great title for this thread!  I feel like bursting into song... and eating porridge!  Very Happy
puc reducks

This is what's for dins Saturday night. Must go marketing first. Plus some nice, not sweet yellow cornbread.

North Woods Bean Soup

Yield: 5 servings (serving size: about 1 1/2 cups)

Cooking spray [Nice in it's place, but extra-virgin olive oil is mo' better.]
1  cup  baby carrots, halved [NO. No nutrients, will be slicing organic carrots.]
1  cup  chopped onion
2  garlic cloves, minced
7  ounces  turkey kielbasa, halved lengthwise and cut into 1/2-inch pieces
4  cups  fat-free, less-sodium chicken broth
1/2  teaspoon  dried Italian seasoning [Using Mrs. Dash.]
1/2  teaspoon  black pepper
2  (15.8-ounce) cans Great Northern beans, drained and rinsed [Using cannellini beans instead.]
1  (6-ounce) bag fresh baby spinach leaves

Heat a large saucepan coated with cooking spray [Using extra-virgin olive oil.] over medium-high heat. Add carrots, onion, garlic, and kielbasa; sauté 3 minutes, stirring occasionally. Reduce heat to medium; cook 5 minutes. Add the broth, Italian seasoning, pepper, and beans. Bring to a boil, reduce heat, and simmer 5 minutes.

Place 2 cups of the soup in a food processor or blender, and process until smooth. Return the pureed mixture to pan. Simmer an additional 5 minutes. Remove soup from heat. Add the spinach, stirring until spinach wilts.
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I'll let you know how it turns out.  "Real" soup must simmer for a while, but I'll give this a shot once.
coebul

Re: Food, Glorious Food

auntmartymoo wrote:
Let's hear it.  Whatcha eating right now?
Strong Black coffee
scrutney

Re: Food, Glorious Food

coebul wrote:
auntmartymoo wrote:
Let's hear it.  Whatcha eating right now?
Strong Black coffee


i'm down to the last of my instant coffee.
my daughter has the real coffee in her room....dddr ( dunkin donuts dark roast).

i may have to confiscate some.

coe takes his hot and black.
i like mine just like the women in my life.
blond and bitter.
puc reducks

Decaf organic green tea.  Brewed the British way: in a pot.

I like my tea just like the aliens in my life:
Green and sippable.
coebul

Typical sissy drinks.
Mac IX

Have Chicken Marsala being worked on in the kitchen.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Typical sissy drinks.


Yeah, I missed you, too, Mr. Cranky Pants!  Very Happy

Have you ever TRIED green tea?

Decaf tea because I'm a card-carrying insomniac of several decades.
puc reducks

Mac IX wrote:
Have Chicken Marsala being worked on in the kitchen.


A personal favorite!  Did you have linguine along with it?
scrutney

puc reducks wrote:
Mac IX wrote:
Have Chicken Marsala being worked on in the kitchen.


A personal favorite!  Did you have linguine along with it?


i thought he was a cowardly bastard too....but ben hur ran him over, good and proper in the movie so working on him (with or without lingerie) is probably pointless.
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
coebul wrote:
Typical sissy drinks.


Yeah, I missed you, too, Mr. Cranky Pants!  Very Happy

Have you ever TRIED green tea?

Decaf tea because I'm a card-carrying insomniac of several decades.
Green tea?  Yuck!  I am a card carrying Sweeeet Tea kinda guy.  Red Rose as a matter of fact.  Use the make it so sweet that it coated the mouth.  Now for health reasons I use Splenda.  But I drink at least 4 quarts of iced "sweet" tea a day including taking one to bed with me for a sip in the middle of the night.  2 pots of strong black coffee in the AM from ground bean just before I make it.  

Sorry not a green tea kinda guy.
auntmartymoo

scrutney wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
Mac IX wrote:
Have Chicken Marsala being worked on in the kitchen.


A personal favorite!  Did you have linguine along with it?


i thought he was a cowardly bastard too....but ben hur ran him over, good and proper in the movie so working on him (with or without lingerie) is probably pointless.


No, Scrut.  You're thinking of chicken Messala...it's much drier than chicken Marsala.  (Dragged through the sand behind Charlton Heston vs sauteed in white wine.)
auntmartymoo

Puc, It's funny you mentioned green tea and insomnia...because I have insomnia, too...and green tea makes it worse for me!  Keeps my mind too active with really strange dreams!  But I love the taste of it and still drink it in the morning from time to time.

I'm a huge fan of all kinds of teas.  I lived in London back in the 80s and got hooked on tea because they can't make coffee worth a shit.  (Probably because they don't drink it!)  And I'm a southerner, so I grew up on iced tea and still love it...but I prefer my own, made at home...very lightly sweetened with real sugar.  Coebul, I can't imagine you could find a decent glass of sweet tea at a restaurant anywhere in the NW, am I right?

Coffee, however is in a class by itself.  I worship it in all its flavors and forms!  When I lived in DC, I had Dunkin Donuts delivered via mail each month because I couldn't find an actual store anywhere.  I got spoiled hitting the drive-thru in St. Auggie every day for a DD "Great One"...probably the largest cup of to-go coffee available on the planet...and they put your cream or sweetener in it for you...and it costs 10 times less than Starbucks...but tastes 10 times better.

How did the North Woods Bean Soup turn out?  The recipe looked really appetizing...except for the glaring lack of pork fat.
scrutney

the local hess store has a dunkin donuts...the doughnuts are kinda punk (this from a guy that hates doughnuts)...but the coffee...heysoos marimba, top notch.

24 oz..on the way to work and reload as necessary.
i have yet to master the fine art of making the perfect cup of coffee at home.

24 ounces cost $2.25.
add a pack of butts to the tab (i'm down to 10 a day) and your pushing 9 bucks.
puc reducks

scrutney wrote:
the local hess store has a dunkin donuts...the doughnuts are kinda punk (this from a guy that hates doughnuts)...but the coffee...heysoos marimba, top notch.

24 oz..on the way to work and reload as necessary.
i have yet to master the fine art of making the perfect cup of coffee at home.

24 ounces cost $2.25.
add a pack of butts to the tab (i'm down to 10 a day) and your pushing 9 bucks.


Don't know about that, but...

Subway does egg white breakfast sandwiches (on whole wheat English muffins) and serves *drum roll* Seattle's Best coffee.  Best cuppa joe I've had in town!

Don't usually drink coffee because I can't tolerate the acid in coffee--and the acid-free types aren't really worth it for an only coffee drinker.  So, I get the occasional cup (PAPER!!!) from Subway--a.m.'s only.  I love Sunday brekkie!

No longer a fan of DD coffee.  So weak.  It's barely able to crawl out of the cup (styrofoam!!! bleaaaagh!).
puc reducks

auntmartymoo wrote:
Puc, It's funny you mentioned green tea and insomnia...because I have insomnia, too...and green tea makes it worse for me!  Keeps my mind too active with really strange dreams!  But I love the taste of it and still drink it in the morning from time to time.

I'm a huge fan of all kinds of teas.  I lived in London back in the 80s and got hooked on tea because they can't make coffee worth a shit.  (Probably because they don't drink it!)  And I'm a southerner, so I grew up on iced tea and still love it...but I prefer my own, made at home...very lightly sweetened with real sugar.  Coebul, I can't imagine you could find a decent glass of sweet tea at a restaurant anywhere in the NW, am I right?

Coffee, however is in a class by itself.  I worship it in all its flavors and forms!  When I lived in DC, I had Dunkin Donuts delivered via mail each month because I couldn't find an actual store anywhere.  I got spoiled hitting the drive-thru in St. Auggie every day for a DD "Great One"...probably the largest cup of to-go coffee available on the planet...and they put your cream or sweetener in it for you...and it costs 10 times less than Starbucks...but tastes 10 times better.

How did the North Woods Bean Soup turn out?  The recipe looked really appetizing...except for the glaring lack of pork fat.


Marty!
Not you, too!  Wretched insomnia.  Some day via PM we must compare notes on "solutions."  As in:  ARE THERE ANY???

I take my decaf green tea medicinally:  3 mugs daily.  Supposed to help with this and that, bioflavinoids and whatever.  I like the ritual of brewing tea in a pot.  (I lived in London from 1967-1969... of course, I was a fetus back then... not really. Lived in Putney Bridge and then Earl's Court with all the Aussies.)

But back to tea:  I love almost all of it.  There is one I loathe (and can still taste as I write)... cannot recall name, but it was a Chinese tea (not herbal) and just reeked and tasted of gun-powder.  Maybe it was gun-powder tea?  I don't know HOW it got so nasty, if it was aged or smoked or something, but it was foul.

Black tea--the really good stuff that brews brick red--is a favorite.  Other than what I mentioned above can't think of another tea I dislike.

Now, the herbals are something else!  Valerian tea (for insomnia!) is like rancid gym clothes (your brother's) that you just found after he stuffed them behind the washer about 9 years ago.  I don't care if valerian is the ultimate cure for insomnia, it will never pass these nostrils or lips again.  Not tea, not tincture, not capsules--nada!!!
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LOL because I'm not the world's best coffee brewer, either!  When I worked at the fort, my supervisor (who later because a close friend) would beg, threaten, etc. me not to make the coffee! I was very insulted, but do realize my shortcomings.  I tidied his desk instead.  This was while I was waiting for him to get to work.
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Oh. Crap. Racing. Mind.

Have you ever tried relaxation CDs???  I have a couple (one for insomnia, the other for relaxation), both by Belleruth Naperstek.  They help!!!  First, she takes you through a guided relaxation and then this incredible music comes in (it seeps into your consciousness) and enhances the relaxation.  That's my worst thing:  Cannot relax and mind won't calm.  Anyhow, after the guided relaxation, she reads affirmations.  I don't remember them, but do repeat them in my mind.  One night last week, I was out within 15 minutes!  I have primary insomnia (cannot fall asleep).
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I know this is long, but a "sweet tea" story for you and Coebul:  We had just moved to Florida from Arizona.  Decided to drive to a place called "Palatka," obvious Indian name and we wanted to explore.  It was July or August and we were parched.  Stopped into the drive-thru at a Wendy's and said, "Two large iced teas, please."

A light Southern lilt came back to us, "Do y'all want sweet tea?"

We looked at each other.  HUH???  What the heck is THAT??!

"What do you mean 'sweet tea'?"

Lonnnng pause, same light lilt with hint of derision, "It's got sugar in it."

Us:  "It's made that way?"

"Yeah, that's why we call it 'SWEET TEA'!"

"No, we'll take it without sugar."

True exchange.  Culture shock.  HOW could anyone possibly sweeten another's tea?  S/he wouldn't know how much to add!  It was "Twilight Zona" material.

I'm sure that young girl went home that night and told friends and family about the incredibly stoopid people who didn't know what sweet tea was!

I grew up (Connecticut) on iced coffee, but now guzzle iced tea like a true Southerner!  Well, using a sweetener and not sugar.

The soup was pretty dang good!  We're on low-fat, very limited salt, so it might not be for everyone.  I soooo agree on piggy fat!  Very Happy   Could use bacon or pancetta in the North Woods Bean Soup and really gussy it up. I think I'd use kale in it and not the spinach next time.  Spinach didn't hold up.  And maybe Publix Italian turkey sausage, not turkey kielbasa.
puc reducks

auntmartymoo wrote:
scrutney wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
Mac IX wrote:
Have Chicken Marsala being worked on in the kitchen.


A personal favorite!  Did you have linguine along with it?


i thought he was a cowardly bastard too....but ben hur ran him over, good and proper in the movie so working on him (with or without lingerie) is probably pointless.


No, Scrut.  You're thinking of chicken Messala...it's much drier than chicken Marsala.  (Dragged through the sand behind Charlton Heston vs sauteed in white wine.)


LMAO!   Very Happy
auntmartymoo

Oops, I accidentally derailed this topic into the HB Bier thread...again.
(  Just trying to give Bier's B-Day maximum exposure   Very Happy   )

In response to Scrut's chili posts...

I think all great stews begin with rendered pork fat in the bottom of the pot.
scrutney

auntmartymoo wrote:

In response to Scrut's chili posts...

I think all great stews begin with rendered pork fat in the bottom of the pot.


i guess i do too...but i never realized it.
i saute' the onions, peppers and garlic in bacon grease.

when my wife and i got married, she couldn't understand why i always saved the bacon fat from breakfast...(she couldn't cook either but that's another story...ask me about her first attempt at meatloaf, sometime. truly awful.)

i use it for damn near everything, from scrambled eggs to chicken fajitas.


auntmartymoo

Interesting.  I like it.  My Grandma used to do that...saved the bacon grease in a coffee can in the fridge.  Of course, she referred to it as "flavor" rather than "fat."  haha

I don't usually recycle it in that way.  I make new pork grease when I start a new stew, potroast or stroganoff-type dish.

I chop up a few strips of bacon, very small, and toss em in the pot while I'm prepping the veggies/aromatics.  By the time I'm ready, the bacon has rendered enough fat to get the veggies to start sweating.  Then I sear the meat in it and eventually de-glaze with either white or red wine...depending on whether the dish is going to have red or white meat.

Most of my big dishes start out that way, but sometimes I cheat and just start with (light-tasting) olive oil.  I have 2 versions of most of my recipes...because I know how to cook properly, but I'm lazy and usually in a hurry.
scrutney

you're a litlle bit more scientific than i am....and therefore probably a better cook.
i go totally by gut instinct until i get the recipe nailed down.

my problem is that i am beset on all sides by picky eaters.
my blushing child bride hates (she thinks) onions, peppers and celery.
if only she and the kids knew that the first 2 are in damn near everything i cook....minced to oblivion.

the boy doesn't like vegetables.
my daughter hates red meat.

obviously, subterfuge is my only recourse.
auntmartymoo

That's a challenge.  No finicky eaters at my house.  Just a husband who prefers his meals to be large and frequent.

My only deception is that I must hide containers that contain the words diet, low salt, low fat, etc.  My husband believes those words are always synonyms for "tastes awful."

He doesn't know he's been eating low-sodium bacon for several years.  And he also didn't notice that I made the chili with low-sodium tomato soup.  

In fact, If I describe a recipe as "first you cook some bacon"...all he hears after that is like a Peanuts cartoon..."womp womp womp womp womp."  And it's all good.  I could probably even slip in some tofu and bean curd, and it would still be ok...so long as I start the description with the bacon.
coebul

auntmartymoo wrote:
Puc, It's funny you mentioned green tea and insomnia...because I have insomnia, too...and green tea makes it worse for me!  Keeps my mind too active with really strange dreams!  But I love the taste of it and still drink it in the morning from time to time.
There is a cure for insomnia.  It begins with nice bottle of Cabernet............ Ask your better half.  

auntmartymoo wrote:
I'm a huge fan of all kinds of teas.  I lived in London back in the 80s and got hooked on tea because they can't make coffee worth a shit.  (Probably because they don't drink it!)  And I'm a southerner, so I grew up on iced tea and still love it...but I prefer my own, made at home...very lightly sweetened with real sugar.  Coebul, I can't imagine you could find a decent glass of sweet tea at a restaurant anywhere in the NW, am I right?
I make my own, which by "sweet tea" standards probably doesn't compare to Cracker Barrel or the like.  But it works for me.  And I always have a quart jug of Iced Tea setting somewhere....

auntmartymoo wrote:
Coffee, however is in a class by itself.  I worship it in all its flavors and forms!  When I lived in DC, I had Dunkin Donuts delivered via mail each month because I couldn't find an actual store anywhere.  I got spoiled hitting the drive-thru in St. Auggie every day for a DD "Great One"...probably the largest cup of to-go coffee available on the planet...and they put your cream or sweetener in it for you...and it costs 10 times less than Starbucks...but tastes 10 times better.
2 pots a dayer.  COSTCO (at least our here) roasts coffee in the store.  They are quite good at it and we go through about 5 pounds a month of Columbian Supremo.  Don't care for Dunken Doughnut coffee or their doughnuts for that matter.   But unlike my brother I don't smoke and haven't for more then 20 years.  

auntmartymoo wrote:
How did the North Woods Bean Soup turn out?  The recipe looked really appetizing...except for the glaring lack of pork fat.


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my problem is that i am beset on all sides by picky eaters.
my blushing child bride hates (she thinks) onions, peppers and celery.
if only she and the kids knew that the first 2 are in damn near everything i cook....minced to oblivion.
As a kid you put the F in finicky.  Being the main cook I have taken the position don't like it make your own.  I use the Trinity in just about everything.
bieramar

"...hates onions, peppers and celery."

In the '80s I regularly cooked for two diverse groups of people at my Coquina Lakes condo - my teen-age, then college-age, daughter and her friends; and local musicians after the after-parties at local clubs (N.B. to lurker: Remember?).

I never revealed the ingredients in the two favorite entrees of both groups - the prunes stuffed in the porkchops, or the eggplant and tofu in the meatless lasagna (which no-one ever realized was meatless).

PS: All these chili recipes on this and the birthday thread are great - I've been creating chili for 60+ years and have never made it the same way twice.
puc reducks

Late for dins, but grilled chook from KFC, a tossed green salaed w/cherry tomatoes from the Country Line produce stand, and half a farm-fresh sweet potato (mine w/Benecol and sugar-free syrup).

Then something (tea) to calm me down from today's "press conference" re the First America Foundation, Inc.  (*gag me with a spoon*)  It's exec director says she and the Foundation want St. Augustine "universally recognized."  I guess that means she has partnered with NASA??!   Evil or Very Mad

Sh!t.  I need more than tea...
puc reducks

Just a reminder to local folks:  County Line produce is open until June.  At the county line of St. Johns and Putnam!  You won't believe the size of the cauliflower!  Plus, we got a fresh stalk of Brussels sprouts for $2.  No kiddin'.  Smile
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
Just a reminder to local folks:  County Line produce is open until June.  At the county line of St. Johns and Putnam!  You won't believe the size of the cauliflower!  Plus, we got a fresh stalk of Brussels sprouts for $2.  No kiddin'.  Smile
Seriously no kidding neither of the above are considered eatable.  So I guess $2 for compost (being kind again) is rather spendy.....
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
Just a reminder to local folks:  County Line produce is open until June.  At the county line of St. Johns and Putnam!  You won't believe the size of the cauliflower!  Plus, we got a fresh stalk of Brussels sprouts for $2.  No kiddin'.  Smile
Seriously no kidding neither of the above are considered eatable.  So I guess $2 for compost (being kind again) is rather spendy.....


*groan*  Oh, you are such a pain!!!  I'd like to be your older sister for just ONE DAY!!!   Twisted Evil
coebul

puc reducks wrote:

*groan*  Oh, you are such a pain!!!  I'd like to be your older sister for just ONE DAY!!!   Twisted Evil
And what good would that do?  You gona spank me?  

BTW I hate Okra also.  Along with spinach and most,,,  make that all other cooked greens.  

I really was a picky eater...
scrutney

coebul wrote:
BTW I hate Okra also.


me too...
the magazine drives me bugshit.
and all that 1/2 sister crapola just to bolster the ratings.

peh.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
puc reducks wrote:

*groan*  Oh, you are such a pain!!!  I'd like to be your older sister for just ONE DAY!!!   Twisted Evil
And what good would that do?  You gona spank me?  

BTW I hate Okra also.  Along with spinach and most,,,  make that all other cooked greens.  

I really was a picky eater...


Spank??!  Hardly.  I think you're the kind of kid you would enjoy that.  And as we know "eldest sibling-ing" is not about pleasure...

No, I'd make you clean your room about 6 times and then force-feed you broccoli.  For starters.  There are lovely green drinks you qould quaff (at my command, being the eldest and all).

Okra.  Most maligned veggie in the world.  I love it!  Whole baby okra pods, steamed and buttered.  Very simple.  Great flavor.

This anit-greens thing I have never understood.  My favorite brother-in-law is just like you (*unbelievable*), and won't touch anything green.  Well, now he will eat a simple salad.  But otherwise, won't go near green--and sulks if it gets put on the table.  My sister cooks two meals.  Hey, ya want a special, veggie-free dinner, then get thee to a dinery.

Not to pick on you, but you sound like you are STILL a picky eater!
puc reducks

scrutney wrote:
coebul wrote:
BTW I hate Okra also.


me too...
the magazine drives me bugshit.
and all that 1/2 sister crapola just to bolster the ratings.

peh.


So, you watched the reunion show???  Shocked

Even I couldn't force myself to do that.  Yeeeccchhh.

Okra/Opra/Oprah/Orpah... the only one I can tolerate is OKRA!  Very Happy
auntmartymoo

I'm not a fan of Okra or Oprah...especially okra.  My husband will eat it...but only if it's battered and fried.  Vegetables should not wear fur coats.

Gulp.  I am also, generally speaking, anti-green vegetable.  I will eat salads with lots of fattening distractions on them and steamed broccoli with a pound on cheddar on it...but that's about it.

In a perfect world, steak and potatoes at nearly every meal would be the healthy ideal.  And corn on the cob...lots of that.  And pork fat in everything.  And pasta.  Well, let's just say...meats and starches only.
coebul

puc reducks wrote:


Spank??!  Hardly.  I think you're the kind of kid you would enjoy that.  And as we know "eldest sibling-ing" is not about pleasure...

No, I'd make you clean your room about 6 times and then force-feed you broccoli.  For starters.  There are lovely green drinks you qould quaff (at my command, being the eldest and all).
He he he.  You wish!  As a youth I terrorized my sister.  she was lucky I allowed her to exist.  At 13 I towered over her.  Nah you wouldn't stand a chance

puc reducks wrote:
Okra.  Most maligned veggie in the world.  I love it!  Whole baby okra pods, steamed and buttered.  Very simple.  Great flavor.
Disgusting slimy critter.  Hairy too!

puc reducks wrote:
This anit-greens thing I have never understood.  My favorite brother-in-law is just like you (*unbelievable*), and won't touch anything green.  Well, now he will eat a simple salad.  But otherwise, won't go near green--and sulks if it gets put on the table.  My sister cooks two meals.  Hey, ya want a special, veggie-free dinner, then get thee to a dinery.
The problem with greens is they exist.  Bitter!  Compost.  My mother would cook them beyond eatable even for those the liked them.  Olive drab...

puc reducks wrote:
Not to pick on you, but you sound like you are STILL a picky eater!
Nope!  I do most of the cooking around here.
puc reducks

puc reducks wrote:

"Spank??!  Hardly.  I think you're the kind of kid who would enjoy that.  And as we know "eldest sibling-ing" is not about pleasure...

"No, I'd make you clean your room about 6 times and then force-feed you broccoli.  For starters.  There are lovely green drinks you qould quaff (at my command, being the eldest and all)."

Coebul replied:

He he he.  You wish!  As a youth I terrorized my sister.  she was lucky I allowed her to exist.  At 13 I towered over her.  Nah you wouldn't stand a chance

Mais, non, mon ami... YOU will be the one quaking in your flip-flops.  I wasn't known as "The Nazi" for nothing.  You taller?!  No contest.  But I know where the soft spots and your knee-caps are.  Your poor sister should've come to me for lessons!!!   Very Happy

p.s. FYI, I have FOUR younger sibs, all of whom I benevolently "allowed to exist"!  Ha ha ha ha ha!   Cool  Evil or Very Mad  Cool

p.p.s.
Yes, they are ALL in therapy.
auntmartymoo

hehe   Puc likes me best.  No admonishment for my hatred of greens.

Nanny nanny boo boo...Coebul got in trouble...and I didn't...la la la la la la
coebul

Should I allow her to exist with these delusions or should a dash them on the rockssss.  Hmmmmm!  

(Flipping Coin)


Whoops dropped it.


(Flipping coin again).

Hmm you lose.

Puc you ignorant Slu---.  Whoops wrong script.  

Puc ask Scrutney my vocabulary at the age of 13 were the 7 words you couldn't say on TV and then you got popped.  No brag just fact.  

As a youth I was in a word a "terror".  My older sister wouldn't have dared mess with me...  Once at age 8 (maybe younger) she put her hand on my forehead and told me to hit her.  So I rolled my head back and nailed her in the bread basket.    While she was carping for air my mother was trying hard not to laugh and when she (sis) asked if she was going to allow me to hit her like that mom said "well you did tell him to".  

Loved that woman.  Truly a Saint.  My sister never forgave me for that.  

At age 20 I told her if I wanted to know her opinion I would ask her husband.  She didn't speak to me for more then a year...  

On the flip side at age 14 I kicked Danny and Tony's butts pretty good and they went to get big brother Mike....  Who was 1 a bully, 2 a prick and 3 a porky slab...  But he could kick my butt...  My sister came charging out the back door with a 14" cast iron skillet in hand swinging wildly.  Mike, Danny and Tony took off at run with sis in hot pursuit.    

Some life eh?

auntmartymoo wrote:
hehe   Puc likes me best.  No admonishment for my hatred of greens.

Nanny nanny boo boo...Coebul got in trouble...and I didn't...la la la la la la
Mother always like Scrutney best also.    Careful I might have to feed you your greens Wink.
puc reducks

auntmartymoo wrote:
hehe   Puc likes me best.  No admonishment for my hatred of greens.

Nanny nanny boo boo...Coebul got in trouble...and I didn't...la la la la la la



GRITS (Girls Raised in The South) are due respect!  And latitude!   Very Happy
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Should I allow her to exist with these delusions or should a dash them on the rockssss.  Hmmmmm!  

(Flipping Coin)


Whoops dropped it.


(Flipping coin again).

Hmm you lose.

Puc you ignorant Slu---.  Whoops wrong script.  

Puc ask Scrutney my vocabulary at the age of 13 were the 7 words you couldn't say on TV and then you got popped.  No brag just fact.  

As a youth I was in a word a "terror".  My older sister wouldn't have dared mess with me...  Once at age 8 (maybe younger) she put her hand on my forehead and told me to hit her.  So I rolled my head back and nailed her in the bread basket.    While she was carping for air my mother was trying hard not to laugh and when she (sis) asked if she was going to allow me to hit her like that mom said "well you did tell him to".  

Loved that woman.  Truly a Saint.  My sister never forgave me for that.  

At age 20 I told her if I wanted to know her opinion I would ask her husband.  She didn't speak to me for more then a year...  

On the flip side at age 14 I kicked Danny and Tony's butts pretty good and they went to get big brother Mike....  Who was 1 a bully, 2 a prick and 3 a porky slab...  But he could kick my butt...  My sister came charging out the back door with a 14" cast iron skillet in hand swinging wildly.  Mike, Danny and Tony took off at run with sis in hot pursuit.    

Some life eh?

auntmartymoo wrote:
hehe   Puc likes me best.  No admonishment for my hatred of greens.

Nanny nanny boo boo...Coebul got in trouble...and I didn't...la la la la la la
Mother always like Scrutney best also.    Careful I might have to feed you your greens Wink.


First off:  Don't you DARE "Puc, you ignorant slut" me!!!

THAT IS MY BEST TOTT LINE TO ED SLAVIN!!!  "Ed, you ignorant slut."

I have the WORLD-WIDE DISTRIBUTORSHIP ON THAT ONE!

You're putting up "terror" against "The Nazi"???!!!  You're daft. Comes from NOT eating your greens.  Razz

Anyhow, I used to beat up boys at the bus stops.  Older boys.  From kindergarten to about 8th grade.  And I mean beat the crap out of them.  Alone.  A lot.  No body would believe it when they told on me.  Yeah, a real psychopath.  But I never tolerated any boy nonsense.

Siblings?  They were made to torture.  Interlopers.

Cast iron skillet?  Pah.  My ma chased me down Merrell Avenue with a handled wooden bread board when I grew impatient with her and tossed a glass of OJ in her face.  She never got close.  

Then there was the almost-electrocution of Sister #1,  She's the one I tormented when I was left to babysit.  Her chore was to sweep the kitchen floor after dins.  I'd walk it in my bare feet.  If I felt as much as a crumb, I'd make her sweep--again.  Did it six times. Reduced her to a puddle.

Yes, Coe, "some life."  I doubt either of us has scratched the surface.

Sorry, Coe.  But you are in the minors!   Laughing

(And that fresh mouth to your sister is beyond forgiveness.  I'da hauled off and slapped your smarmy face.  You'd still be smarting... not smarter, but smarting. That was a truly loathsome thing to say to her.)
scrutney

puc...i am here to tell you(largely due to coe's intercession -more on that later-)that coebul's reign of terror is mostly true.

he was a belligerent son of a gun even before he signed on to talk of the town.

mom may have liked me best but she went to the wall for coebul, more times than i care to think about...and she won...every freaking time.

teachers.(sadistic gym teachers in particular)
assistant principals.
school boards.
she ate them for breakfast.

when you've been identified as a disciplinary problem...then discipline is what you'll receive, hard and fast...deserved or not.

mom wasn't having any of that crap.
coebul

scrutney wrote:
puc...i am here to tell you(largely due to coe's intercession -more on that later-)that coebul's reign of terror is mostly true.

he was a belligerent son of a gun even before he signed on to talk of the town.

mom may have liked me best but she went to the wall for coebul, more times than i care to think about...and she won...every freaking time.

teachers.(sadistic gym teachers in particular)
assistant principals.
school boards.
she ate them for breakfast.

when you've been identified as a disciplinary problem...then discipline is what you'll receive, hard and fast...deserved or not.

mom wasn't having any of that crap.
All kidding aside.  She did go to the mat more then once...  Was institutional in getting rid a at least two who had no business teaching kids.  

Remember when they went to the board and demanded the return of the Public law card...  

I held the school record for suspensions.  Like 35 times in 3 years.  I spent more time in the PA room, the ditto room or on suspension then I did in class.  And only once did I deserve it when I unsnapped the bra of a particularly well built young lady...  Jeese today I would be a sex offender.  

I remember getting caught by Joe G----r going up the down stair case..  Trying to make it to class on time...  He made me return down those stairs and up the the "UP" stairs. I was late to class and the teacher sent me to the office for being late 5 days in a row and Joe sent me home until Mom and Dad called to reinstate me...  They didn't call and sent me to Uncle Bills for a week.  The school called and wanted to know why they hadn't called and Dad said they had decided not to call...  What??? Coebul has to go to school... Hell you sent him home......  

You can't make this stuff up...  

Gawd they don't make parents like that any more...
Mac IX

Our helper/nurse/housekeeper/overall life saver made tapioca pudding for dessert tonight.  First time I've had it in years.

Wonderful
puc reducks

scrutney wrote:
puc...i am here to tell you(largely due to coe's intercession -more on that later-)that coebul's reign of terror is mostly true.

he was a belligerent son of a gun even before he signed on to talk of the town.

mom may have liked me best but she went to the wall for coebul, more times than i care to think about...and she won...every freaking time.

teachers.(sadistic gym teachers in particular)
assistant principals.
school boards.
she ate them for breakfast.

when you've been identified as a disciplinary problem...then discipline is what you'll receive, hard and fast...deserved or not.

mom wasn't having any of that crap.


Scrut,
Look, I already know Coebul taught you to use the screwdriver to explore the electrical outlet--and that your avatar is more "home movie" than not!

Seriously, I have no doubt Coe really was Robespierre when you were growing up.  (I mean, listen to him NOW!)  That you both had parents who went to the mat for you all is something I didn't have, but I know how precious that is.  Please know, too, that Coe likes a good drubbing now and again--and that I like to give it back.  I am assured there are "No worries" about these exchanges.

I love that you two guys are on this board together, so many miles apart, so much older ( Very Happy ) and still supporting each other.  Really there for eech other.  Like the Waltons, only REAL.
~~~~~

I, too, was a "disciplinary problem."  And "disruptive."  But no one had my back.  I can't tell you the number of times I ran away from home!  Made it to NYC, Boston, and on and on.  Virginia once.  Hitch-hiked.  By myself.

Suspensions?!!  OMG.  I lived in a men's dorm (mostly gay guys) at an art school in Boston for six weeks during my senior year in high school.  Good thing my parents were in the throes of a divorce and I went unmissed.  There were no aunts or uncles to send me to--but I would have gone gladly.  

The suspensions I hated paying for were the ones when I really didn't do a thing, but was blamed anyhow.

My ancient history teacher, also the track coach and a very scary human, used to put a chair outside the classroom whenever my class met.  He'd come into the room, slam the door, glower at me and say, "One false move and it's in the hall, G________."  I liked to test him, so I spent many hours outside, in the hall, reading poetry. Gosh darn if it didn't become a "badge of honor."

I had to be tough so that I could survive my family.  No woes.  I think it's pretty darn funny how we all turned out:  I'm the sensitive, caring, normal one!  LMAO!!!


p.s.
Meatloaf.  Just to keep this post on track!  Wink
coebul

I was not a disciplinary problem!  I was a product of a failed school system that didn't have a clue how to teach challenging children.  

When in the third grade these 2 educators sat in my parents living room and told my parents not to expect a great deal from me.  In effect I was not capable of learning.  Or in other words I was retarded.  

Now I might not be the brightest bulb in the box but retarded???  I think not.

Mom asked if they had tested me?  They hadn't.  Mom responded that this is a bit strange because I was tested at age 4 at Ford's Hospital in Detroit and was assessed as gifted.  Accurate or not that is far from retarded.  They tested me and darn, whooops maybe they were a bit hasty.  What they did find out was I couldn't read..  Transfer to another school.

Discipline?  I was raised in a family where Sir or Mame had better follow at the appropriate time.  And it did.  

I never fought at school, never sassed any adult, never stole or skipped school and for the most part I was a good kid.  

In the 7th grade the school forced my parent to send me to a shrink to figure out why I wasn't learning...  Hmmmm! A dipstick he still can't read.  That shrink opened up a new person...  He brought out the inner Coebul.  

I began to stand up for my rights...  Once at about 15 I was at a football game and dropped my shoe (loafer) under the bleachers.  I went to get it and as I came out from under the bleachers there was the big burly county cop telling me to climb back over the fence.  I told him I wouldn't I had a date and she was sitting there (pointing).  He threatened to arrest me and I said I need to call my parents to have my date taken home.  And then my mom and dad would be down to get me and I wouldn't want to be there if I were him...  

LOL he called me a smart ass and I said Oh no sir but I don't lie and my parents are not going to be very happy with him.  He let me go sit with my date...  Gods honest truth.  

My troubles are with the schools in ability to teach kids like me...  But discipline was not the problem.

I got suspended for forgetting a pencil, for being late the class, for having to long hair, for roughhousing on the school bus (got kicked off for 2 months), for hitch hiking to school (because I got kicked off the school bus).  But only once did I get tossed for cause...  Yep unhooking Julia Y's bra.  Gawd that was funny.  

At age 15 I went to a private baby sitting outfit for 3 years and then graduated with a piece of paper called a diploma.  

But I never did drugs nor drank nor most anything you would call trouble.  Granted I did skirt the edge later in life but as a youth I would say no problems.  My father would have killed me...

That is why my parent went to the mat for both Scrutney and Me.  

Hell I talk to much.

Denver Omelet
puc reducks

Holy Mackerel!  And Mullet!  You had a completely different schooling experience than I did.  Totally.

I guess I made up for all the lying, stealing, punching, etc., that you didn't do.  Never did cheat though.  I drew the line at that.

For me it was the classic:  "Doesn't apply herself."  *yawn*  I was bored. BORED. All the time at school.  That's when I started going to the public library and reading by subject--anything that interested me.  (Yeah, I'd get thrown out of there, too, but they would let me in the next day with a tiny little "warning.")

If I didn't want to learn, then I didn't.  If I didn't see a purpose, then I did/read something else.  We had 357 students in my graduating high school class.  Academically (and I use that loosely), I was #354.  Guidance counselor told me I was not college material, that I should go get married.  Fifty-three weeks later I moved to England.

Anyhow, Coe, what happened to you was the shittiest thing I can think of. All that those actions imply: judgments--based on ignorance.  I can't imagine how frustrating that must have been for you.  Yes, failed system, teachers with no clues and/or no interest or energy.  How did you escape not learning to read?  How did they let you slide by and pass you up to another grade?  That is criminal.

Rebellion.  Against strict Italian Catholic upbringing, against Authority, against you name it.  I went to high school from 1961-1965, so there was lots and lots of fodder for kids like me.

Cutty Sark in the apple orchards.  Pot in Greenwich Village.  Shop-lifting.  No one gave a flying fig.  I know my behavior was me screaming for attention, for direction, for something my parents were incapable of recognizing. And I had no mentor at all.  NOT bemoaning.  Just sayin'...

Ummmm, Eggs Benedict with Spinach! Laughing
scrutney

coebul wrote:
But I never did drugs nor drank nor most anything you would call trouble.
Denver Omelet


baloney.
coebul

scrutney wrote:
coebul wrote:
But I never did drugs nor drank nor most anything you would call trouble.
Denver Omelet


baloney.
During school age??? Baloney my ass.  I didn't cut loose until I had graduated High School...  Smoked herb once maybe twice before I turned 19.  

Gods truth.
scrutney

coebul wrote:
scrutney wrote:
coebul wrote:
But I never did drugs nor drank nor most anything you would call trouble.
Denver Omelet


baloney.
During school age??? Baloney my ass.  I didn't cut loose until I had graduated High School...  Smoked herb once maybe twice before I turned 19.  

Gods truth.


who me?
i was just commenting on what i had for dinner.
coebul

Ass hole.
Mac IX

Interesting post Coe.  I got in trouble AMM for what I considered a general response to his school situation.  and I'm doing the same thing here.  I have no ax to grind nor line to push.  This is just as general information. Please don't let me offend you.

For what it is worth what you described is a somewhat classic gifted situation in a school (and general time) with no concept (s) of gifted or how to deal with it/them.

You never caused trouble or had difficulties, but you didn't need nor want what your school had to offer.  You (Undoubtedly) understood everything presented in the classroom at least as (if not before) the teacher presented it.  Having met the needs of the situation to your satisfaction, you went on to other things and basically tuned out on what was going on in the classroom.

I would assume you had a limited disability area in reading.  You have obviously grown out of it, but if you think a little you will remember at what age it happened. One day you couldn't really read (and so didn't bother to try) and a day or so later you read just fine. (and haven't been bothered by it since)

Quote:
I got suspended for forgetting a pencil, for being late the class, for having to long hair, for roughhousing on the school bus (got kicked off for 2 months), for hitch hiking to school (because I got kicked off the school bus).  But only once did I get tossed for cause...  Yep unhooking Julia Y's bra.  Gawd that was funny.
 

If you did things like not having a pencil you "obviously did it on purpose to be a problem" and accordingly got sent to the office.  You were too smart to accidentally forget a pencil.  Same with being late for class (how many times did it happen?)  The hitch hiking is also classically gifted.  You had a problem (getting to school) and so you solved it. Precisely what a gifted kid would do.  Unhooking the bra was precocious as hell at the age and in the time when you did it, etc.

I agree that the school was not set up to understand, let alone meet your needs.  Even today there aren't many schools set up to handle gifted needs, let alone in the primary grades (where they are the biggest issue). "Gifted" in terms of the public schools didn't exist until Sputnik and didn't really have much of a place in education (other than in some big sophisticated city situations like NYC etc) until the mid 1970s.  I actually am credited with having one of the first gifted programs in Ohio and all I was doing was meeting the needs of my band kids. I didn't know it was a gifted program until they came from the state capitol to have me run sessions to teach other people how to do a gifted program. (No shit.)

I know that none of this helps a damn bit but do understand that it was  not a limitation of your school, it was a limitation of the existing society and the state of progress in education.  

How close did I come to your concepts of the situation?
puc reducks

Sroebul and Chutney,
You guys crack me up!
puc reducks

Din-din tonight was over-fried pork chops, applesauce w/cinnamon for Himself, sweet potatoes from County Line (baked w/skins in the oven--it was like a souffle inside!), and green salad.

If anyone has a fool-proof way to prepare TENDER center-cut pork chops, I'd love to know!
scrutney

coebul wrote:
Ass hole.


i ought to tell guido.

unless i miss my guess ...you just engaged in name calling.
(either that or you had an interesting dinner.)
bieramar

One method of cooking tender center cut pork chops, as they don't have the fat or connective tissues which naturally tenderize other cuts of meats:

Must use a heavy skillet with tight fitting cover; use no more than a tablespoon of oil - Pam Olive or Canola spray works fine - and cook 4 minutes on each side.  Tightly cover skillet for 12/13 minutes.  Voila!

For variety add a cup of wine with the oil before cooking.  After the 12/13 minutes, remove the chops, add salt/pepper and/or herbs of choice (I use my homegrown), turn up the heat to boiling and reduce to a medium thick sauce to pour over the chops after plating.  

The wine technique works well with other types of meat medallions also.

And for a magnificent taste treat have your butcher flash freeze the chops and cook them for 2 minutes for medium rare.  Flash freezing kills trichinosis as well as cooking well done does.
coebul

Mac IX wrote:
Interesting post Coe.  I got in trouble AMM for what I considered a general response to his school situation.  and I'm doing the same thing here.  I have no ax to grind nor line to push.  This is just as general information. Please don't let me offend you.
Now Worries.  When you bare your soul so to speak you expect comment.  

Mac IX wrote:
For what it is worth what you described is a somewhat classic gifted situation in a school (and general time) with no concept (s) of gifted or how to deal with it/them.
Whether I am gifted or not?  Who knows.  MENSA class I am not.  I took a look at the test and was positive I wouldn't do well.  I might not be the brightest bulb in the box but I am not all that dim either.  

Mac IX wrote:
You never caused trouble or had difficulties, but you didn't need nor want what your school had to offer.  You (Undoubtedly) understood everything presented in the classroom at least as (if not before) the teacher presented it.  Having met the needs of the situation to your satisfaction, you went on to other things and basically tuned out on what was going on in the classroom.
If I were a kid today I am pretty sure they would have me on Aderall or Ridlin.  Maybe Prozac.  Both my kids are...  More for my sanity then whether it works for them  Although I daughter is doing very well in a great teachers college.  

I understood what was taught to a point.  If and it is a big if I was listening.  Most the time I was not..  I think...  I was easily distracted and always tired.  But if you could catch my attention i focused on it like a lazer.  I would take my allowance and buy a model and work on it for the entire weekend (fifteen 20 hours).    

Mac IX wrote:
I would assume you had a limited disability area in reading.  You have obviously grown out of it, but if you think a little you will remember at what age it happened. One day you couldn't really read (and so didn't bother to try) and a day or so later you read just fine. (and haven't been bothered by it since)
There is no doubt the fact is couldn't read.  I saw the words and individually I could sound them out and tell you what they were but putting 5 words together for a sentence.  forget it..  I was 18 before I read my first book.  For several years my mother and I would sit at the table reciting words.  cat, fat, sat, rat..... Stir no reading.. Around age 18 my head master for the expensive baby sitting outfit read to the class all 10 of us the Andromeda Strain.  Then at critical point handed us copies and told us to find out how it ended.  Most tossed the book I plowed through it.  Good book.  

Mac IX wrote:
Quote:
I got suspended for forgetting a pencil, for being late the class, for having to long hair, for roughhousing on the school bus (got kicked off for 2 months), for hitch hiking to school (because I got kicked off the school bus).  But only once did I get tossed for cause...  Yep unhooking Julia Y's bra.  Gawd that was funny.
 

If you did things like not having a pencil you "obviously did it on purpose to be a problem" and accordingly got sent to the office.  You were too smart to accidentally forget a pencil.  Same with being late for class (how many times did it happen?)  The hitch hiking is also classically gifted.  You had a problem (getting to school) and so you solved it. Precisely what a gifted kid would do.  Unhooking the bra was precocious as hell at the age and in the time when you did it, etc.
About the only thing I ever did on purpose was Julia's bra strap.  I forgot a pencil because oh I don't know, because I just forgot to bring a pencil... Was it psychological?  Most probably.  I was late to class because it was a big school and most times I would have to get out of the shower after gym dress and run like hell to the next class at the other end of school.  And if there was something of interest along the way???  Wow that's neat..  Hitch hiking?  It was 4 or 5 miles to school at least.  The tossed me off the bus for fooling around... (by the way Jimmy E. turned me in and we did have words after school..  He was Gutters pet and I did whomp him once.  But all and all I was never in serious trouble.  Gutter would see me walking down the hall and call out at the top of his lungs COOOEEBBUULLLL.  Damn should have ducked.  Generally those incidents were over my hair length...  Always ended up getting greased.  5 fingers of Butch wax and a comb straight back...

Mac IX wrote:
I agree that the school was not set up to understand, let alone meet your needs.  Even today there aren't many schools set up to handle gifted needs, let alone in the primary grades (where they are the biggest issue). "Gifted" in terms of the public schools didn't exist until Sputnik and didn't really have much of a place in education (other than in some big sophisticated city situations like NYC etc) until the mid 1970s.  I actually am credited with having one of the first gifted programs in Ohio and all I was doing was meeting the needs of my band kids. I didn't know it was a gifted program until they came from the state capitol to have me run sessions to teach other people how to do a gifted program. (No shit.)
Honestly I believe I was an anomaly.   I wasn't stupid but I couldn't learn in their setting...  They called me Dyslexic.  But they didn't have ADD or ADHD back then..  My mother worked for HEW and knew several dept head of several colleges and universities.  She had a conference with one guy who was considered an authority on learning disabilities and at the conclusion she said "well what do you think?"  He said beats me what do you think you know as much about LDs as I do.   She had read all the literature out there but nothing seemed work.  One day I finished that book and then it was over.  I could read well enough to enlist in the Air Force.  I took the test and Scored extremely high on Mechanical and Electronics.  They told me I could write my own ticket.  So I did.  I did a hitch in the AF.  One day my brother was talking about the school he was going to and how much fun he was having... I called the Admissions office and asked about it and the next thing I knew I was admitted and heading off to college.  

A funny and true story.  one evening during Fresh orientation we wrote English placement essays. Dr Harkey counseled me and asked how in the world did I get into college??? I told him I was a Vietnam era Vet and I got accepted.  I asked him why he asked and he answered "well  you are functionally illiterate".  Before I could grasp the insult he explained that the only way I would ever have a chance at succeeding in college was to learn how to read better and write.  I took 2 semesters of remedial English under his tutelage and while I am not great at spelling and couldn't diagram a sentence if my life depended on it and punctuation???? forget it.  But I can write and I am an avid reader...  

Mac IX wrote:
I know that none of this helps a damn bit but do understand that it was  not a limitation of your school, it was a limitation of the existing society and the state of progress in education.  

How close did I come to your concepts of the situation?
Were you right???  I don't know... I am not sure I understood all of what you wrote.  I believe school failed me as much as anything...  But was it their fault?  I doubt it.. It was the 60s and they didn't know what they know today...  The up shod of all of it is I did learn and the problem was they could not teach me.  I can learn, I did learn and I do learn..  I read a great deal especially on banking and how it failed this country...   I plan to read at least one book on the founding father and the presidents of that era and maybe even from later eras.  Not interested in President past Ike.  

I wonder about this stuff alot.  Maybe that is why I am addicted to this site.   I have threatened to write a book but probably never will.  I even picked out a name.

I do not blame anyone or the schools.  They were in the process of going from the Big Bopper and Elvis to The Beatles and the Rolling Stones...  I believe I just got caught in the middle.  I know I got Social Promotions in the 7th, 8th and 9th grades which told me I was too big and to dumb to stay back..

Did I answer your question...
coebul

scrutney wrote:
coebul wrote:
Ass hole.


i ought to tell guido.
I always knew you were a snitch.  

Smoked ham for diner.
bieramar

coebul wrote:
Smoked ham for diner.


Smoked blunt for breakfast.
coebul

Starting with a Cohiba?  I wonder if Das Schlick Meister went that root.
puc reducks

bieramar wrote:
One method of cooking tender center cut pork chops, as they don't have the fat or connective tissues which naturally tenderize other cuts of meats:

Must use a heavy skillet with tight fitting cover; use no more than a tablespoon of oil - Pam Olive or Canola spray works fine - and cook 4 minutes on each side.  Tightly cover skillet for 12/13 minutes.  Voila!

For variety add a cup of wine with the oil before cooking.  After the 12/13 minutes, remove the chops, add salt/pepper and/or herbs of choice (I use my homegrown), turn up the heat to boiling and reduce to a medium thick sauce to pour over the chops after plating.  

The wine technique works well with other types of meat medallions also.

And for a magnificent taste treat have your butcher flash freeze the chops and cook them for 2 minutes for medium rare.  Flash freezing kills trichinosis as well as cooking well done does.


Yup, I know the why of dry chops, which is why I specified "center cut."  Leaner than chicken.  Smile

I think the time is the key.  You're essentially saying direct heat for a short time and then residual cooking for the rest.  I can dig it.

The wine sauce is a great idea--and very fast and simple.

Will have to modify to suit various ailments/dietary prohibitions, but I think I can make the method work!  Thanks!  Smile
coebul

boil the crap out of them
bieramar

puc reducks wrote:
I think the time is the key. ?

You're essentially saying direct heat for a short time and then residual cooking for the rest. ?

Will have to modify to suit various ailments/dietary prohibitions, but I think I can make the method work! ?Thanks! ?Smile


Residual cooking, "yes," and I forgot to emphasize "turn the heat off" when you place the tight cover on!

Heavy skillet is also important for heat transfer.

As to the wine sause, other non-alky liquids are good also, e.g.,  Vitamin-filled water from cooking vegies, bouillon, etc.
puc reducks

bieramar wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
I think the time is the key. ?

You're essentially saying direct heat for a short time and then residual cooking for the rest. ?

Will have to modify to suit various ailments/dietary prohibitions, but I think I can make the method work! ?Thanks! ?Smile


Residual cooking, "yes," and I forgot to emphasize "turn the heat off" when you place the tight cover on!

Heavy skillet is also important for heat transfer.

As to the wine sause, other non-alky liquids are good also, e.g.,  Vitamin-filled water from cooking vegies, bouillon, etc.


We are SO on the same page!   Very Happy

Not only turn off the heat, but remove the pan from the heat, too.  Letting meat "rest," as you know, re-absorbs the juices, redistributes, and makes for more flavor.  (Essential for all fowl and beef, the latter of which we rarely eat, but when we do, gotta let it rest.)

In theory that will help a center-cut pork chop.  In theory.

Rarely, make that never, boil a veggie.  Roast them all, almost exclusively, when they need cooking.  When one's on big-time sodium restriction, as is Carl, there's no added salt to anything, so best to coax all the flavor one can. Caramelization helps lots!

Finally had to admit I was past my Le Creuset days.  Can't lift those heavy skillets or pans, thus all the oven work!

My idea, from your suggestions, is to brush chops w/EVOO, pat some Progresso Italian Breadcrumbs into them and then roast at 400, turning once, for about 6 minutes. Pull out of oven and allow to sit.  Will use instant-read thermometer to get internal temp and take it from there.
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Diff subject, but something I did for lunch today.  When I made cornbread, I used light olive oil (NOT "lite," as in caloric, but light as in not the first pressing so not as powerful a flavor as EVOO) in the mix.  It was savory Heaven!

There is a Tuscan harvest "cake," made only during grape harvest, that calls for olive oil in a cornmeal-based, lightly sweetened cake--into which one adds WHOLE GRAPES from the harvest!  I've made it several times, using all manner of grape (seedless mostly; when I used Concords I seeded the bloody things and I won't do that again!).  So, I figured, why not do the olive oil, egg, less sugar and see what happens.

If you're making a meal of cannellini beans w/herbs, a green salad--well, the cornbread with light olive oil is a great combo!
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
boil the crap out of them


LMAO!  I just know that is something YOU would never do, Coe!  YOU'd boil a pork chop?  Not buyin' it!  Laughing

I'm sure you have some special recipe you are not sharing.  But that's OK...
coebul

Me?  Actually I do boil them ish.....  I fry mine in cast iron skillet with onions and then finish them with a cup or two of water.  Then I pull them out and add a couple of table spoon of flower and stir into a paste.  I add water slowly until the onions, flour, drippings turns into a rich tasty gravy and serve over a roasted on the grill spud.  Served with a green salad (no broccoli) and a bottle of 2 buck chuck..

That seems to satisfy the family and I love it that way.  The rue/paste is the key to a non lumpy gravy.  No mixing water and flour and pouring into the pan...
puc reducks

Pan gravy--drooling.  (Why isn't there an emoticon for drooling???)

I like your direct, stream-lined, one-pan approach.  And the onions!  YES!!!  I just might have to re-think this chop thing and do them on top of the stove after all.

The Great Onion Question:  Yellow or white?  (Forget Vidalias for just a minute!)  I'm partial to white onions.  The yellow seem to spoil a lot quicker.  And in soups, the whites melt, leaving the most wonderful flavor.
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
Pan gravy--drooling.  (Why isn't there an emoticon for drooling???)
There probably is.

puc reducks wrote:
I like your direct, stream-lined, one-pan approach.  And the onions!  YES!!!  I just might have to re-think this chop thing and do them on top of the stove after all.
You should try the Carnitas with Pico de gallo.  I can eat those until I am sick.

puc reducks wrote:
The Great Onion Question:  Yellow or white?  (Forget Vidalias for just a minute!)  I'm partial to white onions.  The yellow seem to spoil a lot quicker.  And in soups, the whites melt, leaving the most wonderful flavor.
In season?  Walla Walla's.  When not in season Himalayan sweets or another South American sweet onion.  

Vidalias?  Never heard of um.
scrutney

bieramar wrote:
coebul wrote:
Smoked ham for diner.


Smoked blunt for breakfast.


ahhhh, the breakfast of champions.
nothing quite like a wake and bake.


coebul

scrutney wrote:
bieramar wrote:
coebul wrote:
Smoked ham for diner.


Smoked blunt for breakfast.


ahhhh, the breakfast of champions.
nothing quite like a wake and bake.


Been there done that.  But not quite as often as you!
scrutney

i haven't done it in a while, the private sector being what it is these days...ie. way more invasive than the feds.
puc reducks

scrutney wrote:
bieramar wrote:
coebul wrote:
Smoked ham for diner.


Smoked blunt for breakfast.


ahhhh, the breakfast of champions.
nothing quite like a wake and bake.




Gonna disagree.

MENUDO is the breakfast of champions!  Very Happy
coebul

Oh please!  Munudo?  That is only good for hangovers and that's because that crap makes you hurl and helps get rid of last night.
coebul

scrutney wrote:
i haven't done it in a while, the private sector being what it is these days...ie. way more invasive than the feds.
There ought to be a law.
puc reducks

Different WORLDS, not Regions!

puc reducks wrote:
The Great Onion Question:  Yellow or white?  (Forget Vidalias for just a minute!)  I'm partial to white onions.  The yellow seem to spoil a lot quicker.  And in soups, the whites melt, leaving the most wonderful flavor.
In season?  Walla Walla's.  When not in season Himalayan sweets or another South American sweet onion.  

Coebul replied:
Vidalias?  Never heard of um.


Sweet onions from Georgia.  We also have St. Augustine Sweets.

Himalayan Sweets?  Now your're showing off.  Gotta go Google or Bing.  Same with South American Sweets.  We St. Augustinians must no doubt import  those from Jax, Orlando, or Boca Raton--if they even have them there.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Oh please!  Munudo?  That is only good for hangovers and that's because that crap makes you hurl and helps get rid of last night.


NOT TRUE!!!  (Never helped my hangovers.  A folktale.)

When it's made right and is nice and spicy hot--lemmee tell ya, that'll warm your insides.

Nothing wrong with a little tripe.!
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
Nothing wrong with a little tripe.!
Yeah?  I know some would say that about the Clap.
coebul

Re: Different WORLDS, not Regions!

puc reducks wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
The Great Onion Question:  Yellow or white?  (Forget Vidalias for just a minute!)  I'm partial to white onions.  The yellow seem to spoil a lot quicker.  And in soups, the whites melt, leaving the most wonderful flavor.
In season?  Walla Walla's.  When not in season Himalayan sweets or another South American sweet onion.  

Coebul replied:
Vidalias?  Never heard of um.


Sweet onions from Georgia.  We also have St. Augustine Sweets.
Hmm I did live in your next of the woods once.  I heard about the fabled one toke, I mean "sweetest" onion.  Walla Wallas are much better.  Much!

puc reducks wrote:
Himalayan Sweets?  Now your're showing off.  Gotta go Google or Bing.  Same with South American Sweets.  We St. Augustinians must no doubt import  those from Jax, Orlando, or Boca Raton--if they even have them there.
Being a little more advanced out this way... When you can't get Walla Wallas (out of season) we import them from South American.  And they aren't Himalayan but Myans or something.. Sorry.  But I seldom use "plain" yellow onions for much more then compost.  
bieramar

scrutney wrote:
i haven't done it in a while, the private sector being what it is these days...ie. way more invasive than the feds.




Hence one of the 5 top reasons I moved to New Mexico - legal for personal medical use.

Re onions - they're like spuds or mushrooms - depends on what other foods will be blended in a recipe, or eaten alongside.
scrutney

bier wrote:
Hence one of the 5 top reasons I moved to New Mexico - legal for personal medical use.


if it weren't for the wife and kids...i'd be out there in a flash, with an imminent case of glaucoma.
puc reducks

For Chili Heads

Hey! Surfing today between loads of laundry Rolling Eyes and (re)found this, The Santa Cruz River Valley Chili Factory (an old favorite):

http://www.santacruzchili.com/index.htm

They offer The Best Unadulterated Red Chili Powder and Red Chili Paste!

Lotta recipes, too.

Hope you enjoy!

The SCRV is one of the most splendid areas in SE Arizona.  Lots of heritage sites, events, food, nature.  BIG Spanish Mission community, so lots of orchards.  They are re-establishing with heritage plants!  (I get giddy over this stuff!  Very Happy )

(Am ordering stuff and will try to find a local outlet for bison/buffalo round steak to make pueblo-style "Chile Colorado"--NO tomatoes, NO beans.)
auntmartymoo

Kinda neat the way the food thread became the family stories thread.  Kind of the way it goes in the south.  Family gatherings = food.

I come from a long line of eaters.  We love to hang out and eat...and talk about food the whole time we're eating...and plan the next gathering where we can eat together.  That sort of thing.  

Take out:  Chips and salsa

Watching:  The Rocky marathon on AMC
puc reducks

Italians are like that, too.   Very Happy    They also like to discuss/argue over what they'll be having for the NEXT meal.   Rolling Eyes

Grilled cheese on sourdough (grilled/fried in extra-virgin olive oil) and homemade chicken veggie soup.

Fuckin' sugar-free Jell-O for "dessert."  Evil or Very Mad

Really want a brownie covered with bittersweet ganache!!!
coebul

Thick cut loin chops with brandy and vernors.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Thick cut loin chops with brandy and vernors.


Lamb. pork, or veal?

The onions and gravy recipe?  YUM!
coebul

puc reducks wrote:
coebul wrote:
Thick cut loin chops with brandy and vernors.


Lamb. pork, or veal?

The onions and gravy recipe?  YUM!
Pork. Don't like lamb and won't eat veal.  Every been to a place where they raise veal?
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
coebul wrote:
Thick cut loin chops with brandy and vernors.


Lamb. pork, or veal?

The onions and gravy recipe?  YUM!
Pork. Don't like lamb and won't eat veal.  Every been to a place where they raise veal?


I love lamb.

Haven't eaten veal since CT (ca. 1971).  I don't approve of how baby veals are raised, either.
coebul

Lamb!  Baby sheep!  kinda similar.
scrutney

throwin' back a pepsi throwback.

real cane sugar.
skookum turned me on to them.
puc reducks

coebul wrote:
Lamb!  Baby sheep!  kinda similar.


Only when specified, otherwise it's beyond the lambie-pie stage, but not yet mutton.
auntmartymoo

My husband cooked ribeyes on the grill last night...yummy Valentine's Eve dinner.
pili

Green Egg

Has anyone ever used a Green Egg.  I am looking at them now and want to know if they are as good as advertised
auntmartymoo

Welcome, pili!

I don't have a Green Egg, but my husband is a huge fan...it's been on his wishlist forever.  Kinda pricey, but we have several friends who swear by them for "cooking a beautiful butt."
scrutney

Re: Green Egg

pili wrote:
Has anyone ever used a Green Egg.
I am looking at them now and want to know if they are as good as advertised


right now, i'm looking at green meat loaf.
i'd use it as a scotchbrite pad...but it smells nasty.

welcome aboard, pili.
puc reducks

Re: Green Egg

pili wrote:
Has anyone ever used a Green Egg.  I am looking at them now and want to know if they are as good as advertised


Hi, Pili and welcome!  Smile

Dad-in-law had one--swore by it (as in, "Hey, I can cook something!").

Have read reviews and they seem consistently favorable.

Wish I could relay personal experience!

Good luck!
auntmartymoo

Girl Scout cookies!
puc reducks

Whole wheat toast with hummus and alfalfa sprouts + a mug of decaf green tea.  Yum!!!
bieramar

Intermingled All Bran, Smart Start, cinnamon, Splenda with fiber and sliced speckled banana; stirred with skim milk and non-fat strawberry yogurt and laced with methylcobalamin - mmmmgood AND healthy.

Accompanied by a mug of Cafe Bustelo expresso, a generic multi-vitamin, 600mg of ibuprofen and 50mg of metoprolol - I'm raring to hit the trails.
puc reducks

bieramar wrote:
Intermingled All Bran, Smart Start, cinnamon, Splenda with fiber and sliced speckled banana; stirred with skim milk and non-fat strawberry yogurt and laced with methylcobalamin - mmmmgood AND healthy.

Accompanied by a mug of Cafe Bustelo expresso, a generic multi-vitamin, 600mg of ibuprofen and 50mg of metoprolol - I'm raring to hit the trails.


I never take my methylcoebulmin with extra fiber.    Wink
bieramar

Touche! So if "there is no such thing as gravity" does that mean we are all gay?
puc reducks

bieramar wrote:
Touche! So if "there is no such thing as gravity" does that mean we are all gay?


LOL!  Not sure... let's ask Coebul!   Cool

My sister was in earnest when she delivered that anti-gravity pronouncement, BTW.  She was in HIGH SCHOOL.  I have used that remark against her many, many times (to my great glee), much to her annoyance.   Razz

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