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tsiya

Oklahoma first-grader suspended

Oklahoma first-grader suspended for making gun gestures with his hand

Those of us who started life as young boys probably remember playing "army" or "cowboys and indians" games where we made gun gestures with our hands.

No one was hurt, and most of us probably grew up okay.

But one young boy was actually suspended from school for making that very gesture earlier this month.

Meredith Jessup writes at The Blaze that a 1st grader in Oklahoma's Parkview Elementary School was punished after making the gesture.  

Lydia Fox, the boy's mother, said the principal called to inform her that the young lad misbehaved during a school assembly by "...pretending to shoot a gun."

For this heinous act, the boy was punished with in-school suspension, with a promise of more harsh punishment if he did it again.



Continue reading on Examiner.com: Oklahoma first-grader suspended for making gun gestures with his hand - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservat...tures-with-his-hand#ixzz1BmglCygV
puc reducks

Context is everything.
auntmartymoo

Whew.  I thought maybe the kid used a metaphor!   Wink
tsiya

puc reducks wrote:
Context is everything.


Baloney, this is just another example of knee jerk liberal syndrome.

Many years ago I was mixing paint for a customer at the hardware store. I was waiting on the father while the mother and 2 grade school boys browsed the store. All of a sudden the women came by headed for the door dragging a kid with each hand, and hauling butt. The man followed them to see what the problem was. It turned out that the woman had spotted the display of machetes and cane knives and didn't want the kids to look at them.
Pure flaming insanity! Hell, if she'd seen the gun display she'd have run through a wall.
This is phobic, irrational  behavior, never thought it would take root in Oklahoma.
puc reducks

Huh??!  Where was the Oklahoma City bombing, then?  Paraguay?

OK.  You've known for a long time that I'm a--what was it you so tenderly called me?--oh, yeah:  knee jerk liberal.  But that's not really true.

I am a moderate Democrat. My knee jerk liberal days are long gone.

What I meant by "context" is that it was just two weeks ago today that Giffords was shot (and 6 killed) in Tucson.  That's context for the reactions, such as the Oklahoma kid.

(p.s.  Don't make me say "salami" in response to your "baloney"!) Cool
tsiya

The OKC bombing is out of context here, we're talking about phobic reactions sparked by inanimate objects and the innocent acts of a little kid.
I find much of liberalism less than rational, make a wish stuff as opposed to reality.
coebul

Re: Oklahoma first-grader suspended

tsiya wrote:
Oklahoma first-grader suspended for making gun gestures with his hand

Those of us who started life as young boys probably remember playing "army" or "cowboys and indians" games where we made gun gestures with our hands.
Yep and later BB guns.  I remember playing manhunt with BB guns.  
tsiya wrote:
No one was hurt, and most of us probably grew up okay.
Yeah most of us.  I only get this slight tick when I pass the Gun isle at Sportsman's Warehouse.  I wonder about Danny and Tony and whethere they still torture the bunny's.  Ask them what it was like being tracked down and then peppered by The Great Hunter Coebul....  I hope they got over those days...


tsiya wrote:
But one young boy was actually suspended from school for making that very gesture earlier this month.
Got to nip this behavior in the bud.  

tsiya wrote:
Meredith Jessup writes at The Blaze that a 1st grader in Oklahoma's Parkview Elementary School was punished after making the gesture.  

Lydia Fox, the boy's mother, said the principal called to inform her that the young lad misbehaved during a school assembly by "...pretending to shoot a gun."
Yep that pretending stuff leads to....   Wonder it that whacko in Tucson played those demented games in his youth.  

tsiya wrote:
For this heinous act, the boy was punished with in-school suspension, with a promise of more harsh punishment if he did it again.
Beat the lil f---ker.  That'll learn him.  Personally I would cut off his trigger finger.  And if this continues remover his BANG making mechanism (tongue) and stitch the corner of his mouth shut.  That ought to stop the Powwwwww sound.  Not finger, no sound, no problem.  Right?
bieramar

A newspaper reporter wrote:
...the boy was punished with in-school suspension....  Midwest City-Del City Schools spokeswoman Stacey Boyer confirmed the incident and says the district's policy is to "address the disruption of the learning environment."


tsiya wrote:
we're talking about phobic reactions sparked by inanimate objects and the innocent acts of a little kid.
I find much of liberalism less than rational, make a wish stuff as opposed to reality.


You may be talking about phobic reactions, but others are talking about one reaction by one school principal in regard to a child with a history of disruptive behaviour.  

Maybe the in-school suspension (sit in the corner?  sit on a chair at the principal's office? Or?) WAS due to an over-reaction by the principal holding the assembly, when the kids' attention was drawn by the boy and girl "shooting" at the wall.  I note only the boy with a history of disruptive behaviour was punished, not the girl making the same "gun" gestures which disrupted the assembly.  

One person, one reaction - not a movement of "liberals" (defined as anyone who disagrees with anything a conservative believes) across the land.  

Even IF the principal WAS phobic and/or emotionally reacted to the "gun" gesture because of some political belief, it would still be only one person - not some organized anti-2nd Amendment "liberal" movement.

I only see one person who possibly had a phobic reaction in this mild disciplinary action for disruptive behaviour.

Upon reflection make that two persons, adding one in Florida.
scrutney

coebul wrote:
And if this continues remover his BANG making mechanism (tongue) and stitch the corner of his mouth shut.  That ought to stop the Powwwwww sound.  Not finger, no sound, no problem.  Right?


i tried taping a corner of my son's mouth...it didn't work at stopping the plosives...the more tape i applied, the smaller the "p" sounds got...but all in all it was a miserable failure.

i haven't tried the finger trick...yet.
raising social consciousness (and polite children) one child at a time.
puc reducks

tsiya wrote:
The OKC bombing is out of context here, we're talking about phobic reactions sparked by inanimate objects and the innocent acts of a little kid.
I find much of liberalism less than rational, make a wish stuff as opposed to reality.


Agreed. We ARE talking about "reactions." Whether they are "phobic" or not is another matter.

If you still posit and believe, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" then you (and millions of others) are deluding yourselves. People with guns (and other weapons) kill people.
~~~~~~

What's wrong with wishing for better things?  Not talking religion here, but meditating/wishing/hoping/even praying for the positive and not the negative. Life Less Jaundiced is what I call it.

If that doesn't work, then I guess folks can oh, mebbe climb a tower in Austin, TX, or some such.

I am IN FAVOR of the Second Amendment, but not stupidity.  That asshole in Tucson NEVER should have been allowed to buy a gun.  Guns kill people.

End of "liberal" rant.
tsiya

"Wishing for better things" usually ends up with a bunch of enslaved or dead people. Marx and Hitler were "wishing for better things".
At some point along the way all the grandiose schemes to modify human nature require coercion, and the jackboots and whips come out. Right or left, I don't give a damn, I don't like jackboots and whips!

"The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees*. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once".

Judge Alex Kozinski
scrutney

kozinski wrote:
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees*. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once


but...those rights kozinski is talking about, haven't failed.
the government stands for re-election and the orderly transition of power is the order of the day.
the news is full of protests...both liberal and conservative.
courts haven't lost the courage to oppose...the oppose the will of the majority on a daily basis....and enforcement hasn't been a problem.

i support the 2nd amendment....hell i even support 30 round clips.

i also support raising civilized children.
in oklahoma...and in my house.
tsiya

I'm all for civilized children but phobic over reaction to almost everything is all too common.
I didn't make up the story about the people in the store, and that woman seems to be the norm in some places. It is a dysfunctional condition and, in the end, if it spreads, will damage our culture.
puc reducks

tsiya wrote:
I'm all for civilized children but phobic over reaction to almost everything is all too common.

I didn't make up the story about the people in the store, and that woman seems to be the norm in some places. It is a dysfunctional condition and, in the end, if it spreads, will damage our culture.


Our culture already has been damaged! And the pendulum is swinging in the bad direction quite rapidly.

By, as you call it, "phobic over reaction to almost everything."

Phobic conservatives, phobic liberals, phobic maniacs.  The list of phobics is endless.

But no worries.  2012 is coming--and we'll all be dead anyhow, as a friend reminded me yesterday!

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