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PAT CROCE FINDS FRANCIS DRAKE

This is amazing!  Pat Croce is off the coast of Panama, nr. Portobelo, and he claims to have found two of Francis Drake's ships from his final fleet.

Drake died there of dysentery in 1596, and ships were scuttled. Francis, the pirate, was clad in full armor and laid in a lead-lined coffin... well, you can read for yourself:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15447632

There is no info on how Croce has identified the Elizabeth and Delight.  No mention is made of any artifacts that would date the vessels.  Portobello was an extremely busy port with many wrecks off its coast.  

The ramifications, if this is true...  What a tremendous boon for Pat Croce and for St. Augustine.  He is blogging from Panama, too.

Waaaay cool.
bieramar

Blog hits are skyrocketing, and I see why after seeing the internet and print coverage!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=e...;ie=ISO-8859-1&q=croce+drake+

And the NYTimes Crossword two days ago featured "Talk Like a Pirate Day" and associated pirate thingees.

Ever tried to explain to a child what romantic swashbuckling pirates (and Robin Hood) exemplify?
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bieramar wrote:
Blog hits are skyrocketing, and I see why after seeing the internet and print coverage!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=e...;ie=ISO-8859-1&q=croce+drake+

And the NYTimes Crossword two days ago featured "Talk Like a Pirate Day" and associated pirate thingees.

Ever tried to explain to a child what romantic swashbuckling pirates (and Robin Hood) exemplify?


No on the child thing, but Les Chiens often inquire about this or that!   Wink

Have you seen recent pix of the bayfront, how he has changed that landscape?

One of today's page one stories in the Record:  a dirt trail.  Nice that it's all ecotouristy, but someone really should have jumped on the Drake find.
puc reducks

Stilll no coverage by The SA Record...
bieramar

puc reducks wrote:
Stilll no coverage by The SA Record...


Maybe Croce terminated his Museum's print advertising in the Record?

Anyway here's some more current pirate tales, dives, recovered items, and history (or attempts at), including Blackbeard and Morgan:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45056...alvaged-north-carolina-shipwreck/

Main article - plus hyperlinks to four more.
puc reducks

bieramar wrote:
puc reducks wrote:
Stilll no coverage by The SA Record...


Maybe Croce terminated his Museum's print advertising in the Record?

Anyway here's some more current pirate tales, dives, recovered items, and history (or attempts at), including Blackbeard and Morgan:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45056...alvaged-north-carolina-shipwreck/

Main article - plus hyperlinks to four more.


Actually, he very recently BEGAN print ads in the paper.

An extensive press release (hyperlinks galore) was sent out electronically by local Pat Croce & Co. staff to The Masses.  Have yet to check on Historic City News, which often will catch something the Record does not.

It is getting interesting, what with British law forbidding any disturbance of any of its sunken vessels and Panama's laws regarding the recovery of swag off its coast.

According to the BBC, Croce has no "right" to be there disturbing the remains (any type).

Maybe it's time for the Somalis to intervene???  Arrggh!
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From the BBC, TEN YEARS AGO:

Monday, 12 November, 2001, 07:20 GMT

Mission to rescue Drake's body

Drake's body lies off the coast of Portobela Bay


A mission to return the body of Sir Francis Drake to England is set to go ahead after the government lifted a ban on the search.

The Elizabethan hero, who led the battle against the Spanish Armada, was buried at sea off the Pacific coast of Panama in a lead casket in 1596 after dying of dysentery.

The crew behind the mission plan to trace the exact burial spot in Portobela Bay and return Drake to his home city of Plymouth.

They are making the trip after Ministry of Defence officials overturned an earlier decision to classify the site as a war grave - thereby banning divers from disturbing the site.


Sir Francis Drake fought the Spanish Armada

Underwater search expert David Mearns, who is making a television programme about the project, says he has won approval from Whitehall for his plan.

This move reverses the policy of former defence secretary Malcolm Rifkind who refused to support an earlier search in 1991.

The line was held again in 1995 when Lord Lewin, then Admiral of the Fleet intervened, and there was a further refusal two years ago.


'Concern expressed'

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "The burial site is not designated as a war grave under the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986.

"It is not up to the Ministry of Defence to sanction this expedition. All we can do is express our concern."

Mr Mearns said he now expects the authorities in Panama to give permission to find the coffin.

He said: "Panama is perfectly capable of making sure that anyone who comes to work there is genuine and has good intentions.

"We have a track record of doing things the right way and getting permission for our work from different countries. We are keen to follow local laws.

"I would be really surprised if the Panamanian Government said no. I believe it is very likely they will agree."
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Apparently, there have been inquiries from international media (British, Spanish) as well as American media.

There are so many angles that make Croce's investigation, co-sponsored by the National Geographic, so dad-gum interesting!

Why don't local minds want to know?
puc reducks

Because I am having such a grand time, having this conversation with myself, I thought I would post this prayer I just found.


Prayer of Francis Drake, 1577

Disturb us, Lord, when
We are too pleased with ourselves,
When our dreams have come true
Because we dreamed too little,
When we arrived safely
Because we sailed too close to the shore.

Disturb us, Lord, when
with the abundance of things we possess
We have lost our thirst
For the waters of life;
Having fallen in love with life,
We have ceased to dream of eternity
And in our efforts to build a new earth,
We have allowed our vision
Of the new Heaven to dim.

Disturb us, Lord, to dare more boldly,
To venture on wilder seas
Where storms will show Your mastery;
Where losing sight of land,
We shall find the stars.

We ask you to push back
The horizons of our hopes;
And to push back the future
In strength, courage, hope, and love.

This we ask in the name of our Captain,
Who is Jesus Christ.

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