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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Pakistani Protesters March on U.S. Consulate - Col. Allen West - Judge Jeanine Pirro - 9-16-12

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Steyn wrote:
Secretary Clinton chose to double down on misleading the American people.

"Libyans carried Chris' body to the hospital," said Mrs. Clinton.

That's one way of putting it. The photographs at the Arab TV network al-Mayadeen show Chris Stevens' body being dragged through the streets, while the locals take souvenir photographs on their cellphones."


Here's the back story from AFP, including on-the-scene photo:
http://blogs.afp.com/corresponden.../09/12/The-death-of-an-ambassador

And here's the followup story:

Libyan witness: Stevens was breathing when found

CAIRO (AP) - Ambassador Chris Stevens was still breathing when Libyans stumbled across him inside a room in the American Consulate in Benghazi, pulled him out and drove him to a hospital after last week's deadly attack in the eastern Libyan city, witnesses told The Associated Press on Monday.

Fahd al-Bakoush, a freelance videographer, was among the Libyan civilians searching through the consulate after gunmen and protesters rampaged through it last Tuesday night. Al-Bakoush said he heard someone call out that he had tripped over a dead body.

A group of people gathered as several men pulled the seemingly lifeless form from the room. They saw he was alive and a foreigner, though no one recognized him as Stevens, al-Bakoush said.

He was breathing and his eyelids flickered, he said. "I tested his pulse and he was alive," he said "No doubt. His face was blackened and he was like a paralyzed person."

Video taken by al-Bakoush and posted on YouTube shows Stevens being carried out of a small dark room through a window with a raised shutter and being laid on the floor. One man touches his neck to feel for a pulse. Some of the men shout, "God is great."

The video has been authenticated since Stevens' face is clearly visible and he is wearing the same white t-shirt seen in authenticated photos of him being carried away on another man's shoulders, presumably moments later. Two colleagues of al-Bakoush who also witnessed the scene confirmed that he took the footage.

Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the attack on the consulate, part of a wave of assaults on U.S. diplomatic missions in Muslim countries over a low-budget movie made in the United States that denigrates the Prophet Muhammad.

The accounts of all three witnesses mesh with that of the doctor who treated Stevens that night. Last week, the doctor told The Associated Press that Stevens was nearly lifeless when he was brought by Libyans, with no other Americans around, to the Benghazi hospital where he worked. He said Stevens had severe asphyxia from the smoke and that he tried to resuscitate him with no success. Only later did security officials confirm it was Stevens.

A freelance photographer who was with al-Bakoush at the scene, Abdel-Qader Fadl, said Stevens was unconscious and "maybe moved his head, but only once."

Ahmed Shams, a 22-year-old arts student who works with the two, said the group cried out "God is great" in celebration after discovering he wasn't dead. "We were happy to see him alive. The youth tried to rescue him. But there was no security, no ambulances, nothing to help," he said.

The men carried Stevens to a private car to drive him to the hospital since there was no ambulance, all three witnesses said.
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Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.

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Steyn accusing Clinton of misleading the American people is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLONEL: HILLARY MADE DECISION NOT TO POST MARINES AT BENGHAZI



MICHAEL PATRICK LEAHY
In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, Fox News military analyst Colonel David Hunt laid the blame for the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans at the Benghazi, Libya American mission on Hillary Clinton and the State Department:
The State Department just allowed our guys to get killed. If you approve no bullets in guns for the mission security guards and an outhouse for a mission, you’re inviting it.
Earlier, on Howie Carr's radio show Thursday, Colonel Hunt said that the American mission at Benghazi "was like a cardboard building, there wasn't even bullet proof glass." In addition, Hunt said the security guards inside the mission didn't have bullets:
Howie Carr: They weren't allowed to have bullets, is that correct?
Colonel Hunt: That's true. They were private security. The rules of engagement were ridiculous.
Hunt told Breitbart News that the new State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, approved and signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton since the 2011 fall of Khadafi's regime, severely compromised the safety and security of murdered Ambassador Stevens and all American diplomatic staff in Libya.
He also stated that the decision not to staff Benghazi with Marines was made by Secretary of State Clinton when she attached her signature to the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya document. Breitbart News has subsequently learned that under those rules of engagement, Secretary Clinton prohibited Marines from providing security at any American diplomatic installation in Libya.
Hunt told Breitbart News that "the rules of engagement have been changing drastically over the last 10 years. . . The reason the surge in Iraq worked was we had another 40,000 soldiers and the rules of engagement were changed to allow our guys to shoot. What’s happened in Libya is the final straw of political correctness. We allowed a contractor to hire local nationals as security guards, but said they can't have bullets. This was all part of the point of not having a high profile in Libya."
According to Hunt, the debacle at the American mission in Benghazi is directly the result of Obama's new policies. "The policy of the Obama administration led to this," he said.
"It was the policy of the Obama administration to have a low profile in Libya. That's why the rules of engagement were approved by the Secretary of State to have no Marines at Benghazi, and to have an American contractor hire Libyan nationals to provide security there. The rules were they couldn't have ammunition."
"Obama may not have known the details of the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, but his Chief of Staff and National Security Advisor would have. The Secretary of State absolutely would have."
"The Department of State Security are the people in charge of diplomatic security. They enforce the rules of engagement, which are set at Clinton’s level at State. The Department of Defense was told we’re not going to have Marines at Benghazi. Whether it goes higher than the Secretary of  State to the President, I don't know."
Hunt added that the rules of engagement specific to each country or military situation are drawn up by State Department lawyers and approved by the chain of command. "There should be a document with Hillary’s signature and the Secretary of Defense's specific to Libya. It was signed after Khadafi fell from power.  You'll have to ask the State Department to get the document. They might claim it's classified, but it shouldn't be."
"The State Department has rules of engagement documents that are different for different countries. In our embassies in London and Paris, for instance,  it’s always  a mystery if the Marines at the embassies have ammunition in their weapons."
Hunt compared the security at the Benghazi mission with security at the recent RNC and DNC.
"The recent political conventions had more security than Ambassador Stevens had in Benghazi. If you carried a sharp stick within a mile of the conventions at Tampa or Charlotte you got arrested, yet you don't give bullets to the guards of our Ambassador to Libya. It wouldn't surprise me if Al-Qaeda bought off some of the Libyan nationals hired to guard our ambassador at Benghazi."
Ambassador Stevens was based at the American embassy in Tripoli. According to a spokesperson at the State Department, he would visit the mission at Benghazi sporadically. No one at the State Department has yet answered this key question:
Why on the anniversary of 9-11 was he at the low security mission in Benghazi when it would obviously have been more prudent for him to have been at the presumably more secure embassy in Tripoli?
At her daily press briefing on Thursday, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland offered a description of the defenses at the Benghazi mission that appeared to be in conflict with other press reports. In contrast to some reports that said security within the perimeter of the mission was provided by Libyan nationals, Nuland stated that they provided security on the perimeter and that "there was a robust American security presence inside the compound." [emphasis added]:
QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit more about the security that was at the Embassy? It seems that for an area such as Benghazi, where there was a lot of instability, there were very few guards there. And can you talk about whether the U.S. asked Libya, the Libyan Government, earlier in the week for extra security precaution and whether that – extra security precautions or security personnel and whether that request was fulfilled. . .It does seem though that there were very few security personnel at this location.
MS. NULAND: I’m going to reject that, Elise. Let me tell you what I can about the security at our mission in Benghazi. It did include a local Libyan guard force around the outer perimeter. This is the way we work in all of our missions all around the world, that the outer perimeter is the responsibility of the host government. There was obviously a physical perimeter barrier, a wall. And then there was a robust American security presence inside the compound. This is absolutely consistent with what we have done at a number of missions similar to Benghazi around the world. . .
Ms. Nuland, however, failed to elaborate on the specifics or size of the "robust American security" within the perimeter of the mission. Later in her news briefing, she addressed the State Department reasoning for failing to have Marines stationed at Benghazi:
MS. NULAND: There were not marines at this mission.
QUESTION: Why not?
MS. NULAND: They – we have a number of posts around the world. We have – there are embassies without marines, there are other consulates of this type without marines. We make a decision based on the local conditions as to whether that makes sense, but this posture that we had, which was external security by the Libyans and then a strong U.S. security presence – but it didn’t include that particular contingent of Americans – inside, in a number of other missions that look a lot like Benghazi. . .
QUESTION: Is that for marines coming generally from the mission itself, or does the State Department say, you know, the situation’s really bad right now in this particular section of the world, perhaps we should have marines based here.
MS. NULAND: It’s not a matter of marines necessarily being a qualitatively different way of securing. There are many other ways to secure that are equivalent, too. It depends on the circumstances and it is different in every part of the world, and we evaluate it along with our friends at the Defense Department and other agencies individually, per mission.
Breitbart News has attempted to secure a copy of the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, but officials at the State Department have stonewalled, as this email correspondence from Friday reveals:
To [State Dept Spokesperson]:
(A) Status of my document request for the State Department rules of engagement for Libya?
(B) Can you help me find answers to these two questions:
1. Who provided security inside the Benghazi mission at the time of the 9-11-12 attack, how were they armed, and how many of them were there?
2. Who provided security on the perimeter of the Benghazi mission at the time of the 9-11-12 attack, how were they armed, and how many of them were there?

Michael Patrick Leahy
Breitbart News Contributor

Here is the official response from that State Department spokesperson:
Michael -
I do not yet have more information on the rules of engagement document, which as discussed last night, might require a FOIA request. I will let you know as soon as I receive feedback. However, and this also applies to your two follow up questions, we do not discuss security details for the safety of our missions. The two questions below are addressed to the fullest extent possible in both briefings I sent you last night.
[State Department Spokesperson]
On Friday, Breitbart News filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the State Department to secure a copy of the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.
Look for the State Department to continue to stonewall this request, and resist release of the document until after the election. Its contents will be just too damaging. In effect, the country will be able to see Hillary Clinton's signature on the document that served as Ambassador Chris Stevens's death warrant.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Gove...on-to-Have-No-Marines-at-Benghazi
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details of the lives of the two KIA former Navy SEALS who were under contract with the State Dept. as Private Security Contractors (PSC) here: http://civiliancontractors.wordpress.com/tag/tyrone-woods/

Since the invasion of Afghanistan on average 1 PSC has been killed for every 4 uniformed U.S. military personnel killed; likewise the wounded in action.

However since the end of formal combat in Iraq and the change of mission in Afghanistan that ratio has significantly increased, as evidenced by 418 PSCs KIA in 2011, and 111 KIA so far in 2012.

Both the State Department and the Defense Department contract PSCs, and at any given moment there are more on duty than uniformed Marines at State Dept. Embassies, Consulates and Stateions, and more on duty in Defense Dept. jobs in Afghanistan/Iraq than uniformed U.S. combat and support military.

Death benefits to survivors, and medical benefits to PSCs and their dependents, and wage-loss and disability pensions are the same as those for U.S. military KIA/WIA - all based upon the salary being received at the time of injury (all administered and paid by the U.S. Dept. of Labor Federal Workers' Compensation Office). The costs are then billed to the corporate contractor with the U.S. government, who hire the PSCs. But only a fraction of the expenditures of U.S. taxpayers' dollars is recovered, as the corporate Security Companies regularly dissolve, re-incorporate and change names. It has been a billion dollar business for the private sector since 2001.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AL-QAEDA INVOLVED, US WARNED BEFOREHAND


by AWR HAWKINS  

Libya's highest politician says the United States government was warned about a pending attack on its diplomatic staff three days before it took place.
Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif says his government received word of the pending attack and passed that information to US diplomatic officials no later than 48 hours before the attack.
President Megarif said the attack was planned by an Islamist group with links to Al-Qaeda.
A senior Libyan official in Benghazi says he also warned US diplomats three days before the attacks took place.
US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice appeared on various Sunday morning news programs to assure Americans the Obama administration had no prior knowledge of the Libyan attack that cost Ambassador Christopher Stevens his life. She said the attack was not premeditated nor was it part of a greater, orchestrated attack against the US.
Other officials have claimed the attack was "not premeditated" and have denounced reports that there was "credible information" about the attack before it took place. Secretary of State Clinton has stood by these statements, as well.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peac...eda-Involved-US-Warned-Beforehand
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The emerging scandal of what happened in Libya


William A. Jacobson    Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 8:24pm

It is plainly obvious that we have not been getting straight answers from Obama officials about what they knew and when they knew it about the dangers facing our consulate in Benghazi and throughout the region. It may be deception, or they may be so incompetent they still don’t know.

There is credible information that there were warnings of trouble to come, and 9/11 itself should have put a consulate in a dangerous section of Libya on high alert with substantial protection afforded the Ambassador.  The story told by Susan Rice and Jay Carney that the attack was spontaneous is becoming laughable.

There also is evidence emerging that the Ambassador was left with minimal protection. Michael Patrick Leahy at Breitbart.com reports as follows:

According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration’s policy following Muammar Gaddafi’s death has been to keep a “low profile” during a chaotic time.

For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a “low profile,” the administration didn’t even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the “no bullets” Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.

As of now, the State Department has not disclosed the full State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.

We’ll see where this goes.  With the legacy media obsessed with getting Romney, it’s going to fall on others to get the truth out.  Whether that happens before the election remains to be seen.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012...candal-of-what-happened-in-libya/
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyewitnesses: no protest at U.S. consulate in Libya before attack began


WILLIAM NAJT
A 27 year old Libyan security guard, that was present when the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya broke out, who asked that his name be withheld to protect his identity, was interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, and said that "all was quiet" prior to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and that there were no protesters before the attack began. He asked that the hospital where he is being treated not be identified for fear that militants would track him down and kill him.

The security guard said, "there wasn’t a single ant outside", and that the entire area, including the main areas of the compound, were quiet, until about 9:35 PM, when as many as 125 heavily armed men, some carrying weapons including anti-aircraft weapons, machine guns, rocket propelled grenades, and grenades, descended on the compound. The eyewitness said the men lobbed grenades into the embassy compound, wounding him and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility's main gate, shouting "God is great", and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said that there was no warning of an imminent attack. He said, "Would you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?" He said he was able to escape by telling one of the attackers that he was only a gardener at the compound. The attacker took him to the hospital, the guard said. The attack itself, the guard said, was immediate and bold, initiated by a group of men who approached the compound and lobbed grenades over the wall. Just behind them were scores of men, shooting wildly and yelling “God is great.”

The guard said he had been hired by a British company seven months ago to protect the compound, and that the first explosion knocked him to the ground, leaving him unable to fire his weapon. Four other contracted guards, and three members of Libya's 17th of February Brigade, a group that was formed at the start of the uprising that ousted Libya's former military dictator, Col. Muammar Gaddafi, and integrated into the Libyan security forces, made up the security force protecting the outer perimeter of the consulate grounds; along with the eyewitness. According to this witness, that meant that the total security team guarding the perimeter of the compound were eight guards. After the men stormed the main gate, the men rushed into one of the buildings within the compound, and there was no resistance from inside the building.

The guard said that thirty minutes later he felt that he was about to lose consciousness, and actually asked one of the attackers for help, claiming he was just a gardener at the compound. The man agreed to drive him to the hospital, and as the two were leaving the compound, the guard said that he saw attackers enter a second building.

The guard's tale is consistent with a version of events offered by the man that leased the compound to the U.S., which he gave on Wednesday. Mohammad al Bishari said the attack began with assailants carrying assault rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and the black flag of Ansar al Shariah moving from two directions against the compound.

U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and consulate computer expert Sean Smith were believed to have been overcome by smoke in the main consulate building, after the building was firebombed by the attackers. As attackers moved through the compound, they killed two former U.S. Navy SEAL team members, identified as Glen A. Doherty, 42, a native of Winchester, Mass., and Tyrone Woods, 41, of Imperial Beach, Calif., who had been contracted directly by the U.S. State Department to provide security at the consulate. Doherty and Woods were shot and killed by the invaders at another building on the compound where Americans had sought refuge. At least three other embassy employees were wounded.

These accounts, by eyewitnesses to the attack in Benghazi, differ sharply from the Obama administration's account of what happened the night that Ambassador Stevens died. U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, claimed Sunday, on many weekly political television programs shown in the United States, "But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that-- in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent." Some within the journalism community believe that the U.S. State Department had decided to accept a version of events that had been reported by the New York Times, because the Times reported "...a group of armed assailants mixed with unarmed demonstrators gathered at the small compound that housed a temporary American diplomatic mission there." The Times also included an account of "interviews during the battle" with those involved in the attack. The Times did not mention if there was any indication that those who were interviewed might have been reciting remarks that had been prepared in advance.

In fact, that same line was repeated by administration officials during the prior week. Unnamed "intelligence officials" continued to report to multiple media outlets this single statement: "Intelligence officials said they believe it's more likely that the attack was 'opportunistic or spontaneous,' with militants taking advantage of the demonstration to launch the assault. At this point, it appears that the only people who are still attaching credibility to reports that there was a demonstration at the compound in Benghazi prior to the attack are officials with the Obama administration.

http://www.examiner.com/article/e...nsulate-libya-before-attack-began
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STATE DEPT REVERSES DENIAL OF HIRING BRITISH SECURITY FIRM IN BENGHAZI

In her daily press briefing on Tuesday, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland admitted that she provided false information Friday about the State Department's hiring of private security firms for the American mission in Benghazi attacked on September 11th:
QUESTION: You also said there was no contract with a private security firm in Libya, and yet apparently some British security guards were hired. Is that your way of saying you didn’t contract with a firm but you did hire individual security guards?

MS. NULAND: Thank you for that, because there was an error in what I said. The external security, external armed security, as we have been saying, outside of the perimeter, was fully handled by the Libyan side. There was no contract – contracting out of that. There was a group called Blue Mountain Group, which is a private security company with permits to operate in Libya. They were hired to provide local Libyan guards who operated inside the gate doing things like operating the security access equipment, screening the cars, that kind of thing.

QUESTION: Just to clarify, they were contracted by the U.S. State Department or another agency – Blue Mountain?

MS. NULAND: They were contracted by the Department.

QUESTION: And Blue Mountain is a British company?

MS. NULAND: I’m going to let them self-identify on that front. But the people who were hired were Libyans.
Nuland continued with reporters, "There’s nothing else that I have that needs correcting at the moment."
Only four days earlier, at her daily press briefing on Friday, Nuland emphatically denied that the State Department had hired any private firm to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi:
QUESTION: (Inaudible) the claim was made yesterday that a company that is a spinoff of Blackwater, in fact, proposed or contracted the United States Government for this particular kind of eventuality, and it was caught up in some sort of bureaucratic --
MS. NULAND: Completely untrue with regard to Libya. I checked that this morning. At no time did we plan to hire a private security company for Libya.
QUESTION: Toria, I just want to make sure I understood that, because I didn’t understand your first question. You said – your first answer. You said that at no time did you have contracts with private security companies in Libya?
MS. NULAND: Correct. [emphasis added]
Solid investigative reporting by Wired's Danger Room may have forced the State Department's hand to finally disclose the truth. On Monday, Danger Room strongly contradicted Nuland's claims:
The State Department signed a six-figure deal with a British firm to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya just four months before a sustained attack on the compound killed four U.S. nationals inside.
Contrary to Friday’s claim by State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland that “at no time did we contract with a private security firm in Libya,” the department inked a contract for “security guards and patrol services” on May 3 for $387,413.68. An extension option brought the tab for protecting the consulate to $783,000. The contract lists only “foreign security awardees” as its recipient.
The State Department confirmed to Danger Room on Monday that the firm was Blue Mountain, a British company that provides “close protection; maritime security; surveillance and investigative services; and high risk static guarding and asset protection,” according to its website. Blue Mountain says it has “recently operated in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, the Caribbean and across Europe” and has worked in Libya for several months since last year’s war.
As Breitbart News reported on Tuesday, Blue Mountain Group is a British security firm hired by the State Department to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi. Blue Mountain Group was chosen by State, in part, because it was willing to accept the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya that prohibited security guards at Benghazi from carrying weapons that contained bullets.
The State Department has refused to release the document that describes the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya to Breitbart News. On Friday, Breitbart News filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the document.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Followup of my two posts on 9/15 - page 6 of this thread Reply with quote

Christian activist says he was deceived over anti-Islam film

By Reuters
Sep 18, 2012

WASHINGTON -- An American Coptic Christian activist whose California TV facility was used to make an anti-Islam film that touched off protests across the Muslim world said he was deceived by the film's producer about its inflammatory content. 

In a statement posted on the blog of a prominent American anti-Islamic activist, Joseph Nassralla, founder of a Duarte, California-based group called Media for Christ, said he was a victim of "disinformation and smear" and the film's principal producer had altered its content without his knowledge. 

Media for Christ operates a Christian satellite TV station called The Way TV, according to its website and tax return. 
 
Nassralla said he was contacted last year by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, whom he described as the film's producer, with a plan to make a film about the persecution of Christians in Egypt. 

Nakoula, who has a criminal record for bank fraud and drug offenses, was briefly questioned last weekend by federal authorities about possible probation violations. He was later released and has gone into hiding. 

Nassralla said in his statement that in explaining his film project, Nakoula had said the film would be called "Desert Warrior" and would "examine the culture of the desert and how it is related to what is going on right now." 

The statement was posted on the website Atlasshrugs2000, which is run by Pamela Geller, an activist who has organized anti-Islamic protests and events, including demonstrations opposing construction of an Islamic center near the site of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York in 2001. 

There was no way to independently confirm Nassralla's account. 

An attorney representing Nakoula in the investigation by probation officials declined to comment on Nassralla's statement, saying he was aware of the blog post but had not had a chance to discuss it with his client. He said Nakoula or his representatives may issue a statement in the future. 

Nassralla, who spoke at two rallies in 2010 and 2011 organized by Geller, said Nakoula "needed a place to film. So I let him use my facility. That is all I did, and is the full extent of my involvement with this project. Nakoula used my facility for ten days. Media for Christ employees were given a vacation during that time, because Nakoula was using the facility and so there was no work for them. There was only one Media for Christ employee who remained, to answer phones for the ministry." 

There was no sign of activity at the small studios of Media for Christ, located in a nondescript office park behind a Walmart store in suburban Duarte, during two visits last week by a Reuters reporter. 

On both occasions the doors were found locked and knocks went unanswered. A woman who worked at an office next door said she had not seen any employees there in recent days. 

Nassralla said he later discovered that Nakoula, using the name "Sam Bacile," had used Media for Christ's name without his permission to obtain an official permit for making the film.

After accounts of the film began circulating in Egypt and other Muslim majority countries, the amateurish production -- which portrays the Prophet Muhammad as a womanizer and a fool -- set off a chain of violent protests and attacks on U.S. and other Western embassies in the Middle East and North Africa. 

In his statement, Nassralla said Nakoula had "filmed his movie not only at my ministry location, but in Nakoula's own home (which reporters located by getting the address from the actors), and in another facility for outside scenes that was included in the permit, Blue Canyon." 

Nassralla also said that behind his back, Nakoula had "altered the film without anyone's knowledge, changing its entire focus and dubbing in new dialogue. He edited it." 

"The final product, 'Innocence of Muslims,' bore no resemblance to the film I thought he was making, or the film the actors thought they were creating. We were shocked," Nassralla said. 

In an introduction to Nassralla's statement, Geller said that she had last seen him at an event in June in California, and that now he was being "hunted like an animal for speaking critically about Islam." Nassralla "is currently in hiding after multiple death threats from Muslims because of his purported role in producing this video," she said. 

In an exchange of emails with Reuters last weekend, Geller suggested that if Nakoula was arrested, that would represent an attempt to impose strict Islamic Sharia law in the United States. "He will not be in prison for fraud or some probation violation, but for blasphemy. This is Shariah enforcement in America," she said. 

In a later email, however, Geller expressed disappointment over Nassralla's account of his dealings with Nakoula. But she added, "That would not make (Nakoula) any less a political prisoner." 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter, the stupid film was just a convenient excuse for actions already planned and scheduled.


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