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How is 0bama handling the Egyptian Crisis?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

The US Administration And NYT Seem To Be Panicking From Morsi’s Testimony

Date: Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 4:21 AM
Subject: Dark Days in Egypt
To: Jill Abrahamson <jill.abramson@nytimes.com>

To New York Times Editorial Board

We pray to God to enlighten you and give you some practical guidance as your piece Dark Days in Egypt appearing in 22 Dec 2013 is a “fantastical” misrepresentation of facts and a total misleading of your readers. That is why we are posting this message and also sending it to 5000 plus of your remaining readers.

Egypt is not ruled by “military dictators” as the NYT continues to harp. It is ruled by a Supreme Court judge acting as interim president and a civilian government comprising many of Egypt’s best leaders.

The fact that you the NYT and US government seem to be panicking of Morsi being brought to trial to face charges seems to not be only strange but you seem to be worried that something comes out of his testimony. Mubarak held well. Do you fear Morsi will speak out?!

There is no self inflicted paranoia and violence as you say what you “don’t” want to recognise is the following facts and until you do, you will remain misguiding your readers:

The Moslem Brotherhood which you don’t mention once in your piece is a terrorist organisation focused on making Egypt a fascist theological state. Egyptian’s said no and will not allow that to happen.

The human rights organisations that are not licensed and are receiving funding from abroad to support illegal protests are unlawful and will be confronted by Egyptian law.

Egypt’s national security will not be compromised. Not under pressure of any country or misguided media.

When the Brotherhood -your friend Morsi ruled- he brought Egypt to its knees.

GDP growth went from 7.5 pct to less than 1%.

Egypt’s credit rating was down graded 6 times in the one year of Morsi”s rule.

During Morsi”s rule, Egypt’s external debt increased by 33% thanks to his borrowing heavily from Turkey and Qatar.

Morsi banned 25000 Egyptian’s from travelling because of their anti brotherhood writings, articles, tv interviews, etc and not one peep from the NYT !!!

Morsi usurped by presidential decree executive, legislative and judiciary powers and railroaded a constitution taking Egypt down the path of a theological state and not a peep from the NYT !!!

Morsi gave 5600 Hamas fighters Egyptian nationality by presidential decree.

Morsi pardoned the brother of the leader of Alqaeda and the killers of president Sadat.

In mosri’s one year he sent fuel to Hamas and allowed shortages to happen in Egypt and brown outs to come back to Egypt’s cities once again which had never happened since 1967.

Morsi clamped down on culture, academic freedom and women’s rights and not a peep from the NYT!!!

Morsi supported girls to be married at the age of 10 !!! NOT a peep from the NYT!

Morsi fired the top echlons of the police and military and installed his people not realising that his and the Brotherhood’s multiple atrocities made the leaders of the police and military succumb to the 30 million Egyptian’s that came out in the streets on June 30, July 1,2 and 3 legitimising a “public impeachment” of a fascist leader and a terrorist organisation.

The US Senates approved legislation is not a support to Egypt. It is a process to make Egypt’s future relationship tied to the White Houses criteria and subjective assessments.

Egypt is a Nation that will not succumb to a terrorist group. Egypt will not be a theological state. Egypt will not be threatened by external countries wanting to undermine Egypt’s sovereignty. Egypt was a Nation State before many on this earth and will be after many disappear.

Egypt will regain Law and Order and vote on its modern civil constitution and elect a parliament and a President. Egypt will not be intimidated by your misleading editorials.

NYT,  Egypt will have very Sunny Days as soon as it cleans up the Moslem Brotherhood’s dark clouds.

Signed by Egyptian American Community

Raouf Imam
Chris Hobbs
Hoda and family
Rashed Abdel Atty
Chris and Susan Fletcher
Lyndsy Pringle
Soliman Alattar
Alaa Taymour
Ahmed Mohamed Badran
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Laila Iskander
Mahmoud Serag Eldine
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egypt's military-backed interim government on Wednesday declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, criminalizing all its activities, its financing and even membership to the group from which the country's ousted president hails.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No thanks to our fearless leader!!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egypt Declares Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Group

The Egyptian government formally labeled the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group on Christmas, banning all of its activities including protests. The Obama Administration, advised by Brotherhood-friendly groups in the U.S., is unlikely to follow in Egypt’s footsteps in calling a spade a spade.

The announcement came after the government blamed the Brotherhood for the suicide bombing of a police station in Mansoura. No proof was offered of Brotherhood involvement. A pro-Al-Qaeda group named Ansar Jerusalem, based in the Sinai Peninsula, took credit.

That didn’t stop local protestors from immediately rallying against the Brotherhood, s effigies of the group’s leaders and attacking property owned by a Brotherhood member. The Egyptian public as a whole remains hostile to the Brotherhood and loyal to the military, with about half the population wanting the group outlawed. Another poll taken in August showed that almost 70% want it banned from politics.

The Brotherhood may or may not be involved in that specific bombing in Mansoura, but that doesn’t mean it is peaceful. It has threatened to form a rebel armed force. After the Egyptian military’s crackdown on the Brotherhood began, Egyptians outraged by the response of the U.S. government and media posted eye-opening videos showing Brotherhood members threatening violence, attacking Egyptian security forces and churches, and putting children at risk for the sake of propaganda.

In addition, Brotherhood preachers continue to instigate violence in Egypt and abroad. The organization knows what it’s doing. Why officially engage in violence when individual members and Salafist allies will do so on their own accord, leaving room for deniability?

The labeling of the group as terrorists comes as the government prosecutes former President Morsi and many other Brotherhood operatives. Morsi is accused of involvement in a “terrorist plan” begun in 2005 to send Brotherhood fighters to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip for training by Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps.

The Obama Administration has decided to swim against the regional anti-Brotherhood wave, cutting aid to Egypt’s government and siding with the Brotherhood. The result is a realignment in alliances that pushes the Arab world into the arms of Russia.

It is extremely unlikely that the U.S. State Department will similarly designate the Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, even though it meets the qualifications. It is more likely that the administration will condemn Egypt’s latest action.

The State Department says there are three criteria a group must meet to be designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

First, the group must be foreign. The Brotherhood’s home base is in Egypt. Its International Organization reportedly moved to Tunisia. Turkey has become its “regional hub” and senior leaders are hosted in Qatar. Check.

Second, it must threaten U.S. nationals or national security, including the American economy. Its regional ambitions for a Caliphate undoubtedly threaten U.S. security. As for nationals, the Brotherhood has justified attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. It also steadfastly supports the terrorism of Hamas and other groups against U.S. allies.

In August 2012, I had an intriguing exchange with the Brotherhood’s English-language Twitter account. It started off with insulting me as “delusional” and a “scaremonger.” It later posted an article arguing that it opposes violence. I asked whether there were exceptions, such as for U.S. soldiers.

“Unless if they were aggressors and invaders of our lands no matter what nationality? Of course,” was the response.

I followed up by asking if the staging country of the “aggressors and invaders” would be an acceptable target in that scenario. The answer was, “yes, according to International Law, it’s an act of war.”

Of course, the Brotherhood regularly slams the U.S. and its allies as “aggressors and invaders.” Therefore, as the Brotherhood indirectly admitted, the U.S. can be considered a legitimate target.

Thirdly, to qualify as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, the group must “engage in terrorist activity or retain the capability and intention to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.”

That’s easy. Hamas is labeled a Foreign Terrorist Organization and Hamas’s charter states that it is the Palestinian “wing” of the Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas changed its name in December 2011 to clarify that it is a “branch” of the Brotherhood. There is even video of Hamas leaders publicly pledging allegiance to the Brotherhood and, specifically, to its jihad.

Brotherhood apologists will argue that the group is not operationally supportive of Hamas terrorism, only ideologically. This is false. For example, the Treasury Department designated the Union of Good as a terrorist entity for financing Hamas. It is led by Yousef al-Qaradawi, the spiritual leader of the Brotherhood.

Israeli aircraft have conducted numerous airstrikes on Iranian rocket shipments to the Gaza Strip through Sudan and Egypt. Hamas does not have an independent structure in Egypt. It is obvious that the Brotherhood networks in Egypt helped manage this route.

It was also proven in court that the Muslim Brotherhood infrastructure in America is guilty of terrorist activity by financing Hamas. The Holy Land Foundation was a key U.S. Muslim Brotherhood component, managed under the Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee, until it was shut down in 2001 for financing Hamas.

When the Holy Land Foundation was found guilty in court in 2008, the Muslim Brotherhood was essentially found guilty. The two are one and the same.

Other U.S. Brotherhood components like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America and the North American Islamic Trust were labeled unindicted co-conspirators in the trial. In 2009, Judge Solis upheld the labels because of “ample” evidence linking the unindicted co-conspirators to Hamas and the overall terrorism-supporting Brotherhood infrastructure.

Federal prosecutors separately confirmed the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood’s involvement in terrorism in a 2007 court filing. It stated:

From its founding by Muslim Brotherhood leaders, CAIR conspired with other affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood to support terrorists…the conspirators agreed to use deception to conceal from the American public their connections to terrorists.

The Muslim Brotherhood fulfills all three requirements to be labeled a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department.

There are three reasons why this has not happened: The Brotherhood’s lobby, ignorance and fear.

The political influence of the Brotherhood lobby is enormous. President Obama even addressed the annual convention of a U.S. Brotherhood entity in September. It continues to advise the administration, just as it did the two before it. The impact can even be seen on the Department of Homeland Security.

The lobby’s influence triggers the second factor: Ignorance. Politicians, media figures, even counter-terrorism personnel are left in the dark.

Then, there’s the third factor: Fear. Designating the Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organization would be messy.

Dozens of mosques and Islamic centers would be raided and the most powerful Muslim-American organizations would be shut down or, at least, publicly investigated. The outcry of “Islamophobia” would be louder than ever as news cameras repeatedly aired footage of federal agents entering mosques.

The global Brotherhood apparatus would go into anti-American overdrive and some of those refraining from violence would reconsider. It would spark outrage from Muslim governments and organizations around the world, especially from “ally” Qatar and NATO member Turkey.

None of these excuses are acceptable. If a group qualifies as a terrorist organization, it needs to be treated as such, regardless of convenience. The facts speak for themselves: The Muslim Brotherhood is a Foreign Terrorist Organization.


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